Easy SFOs real pay
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Easy SFOs real pay
I want to put my unfrozen ATPL (A) to good use and put the (H) in a drawer for a long long time. The problem is going to be surviving on a pay cut if I go to the airlines. I have read the easy website and tried to calculate ACTUAL pay including sectors, but it is not that easy to do. I understand the loan payback scheme and that the 5 year factored wage is close to 35 grand. What I am asking is how much per annum are the other allowances (sector pay) worth?
As a SFO I come out with about £3,000 - £3,200 per month after tax. However, if you are talking about the TRSS scheme (or any other kind of rip-off scheme that the company operates), it is much less and I have no doubt that others will fill you in.
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Perhaps this figure of £3000-£3200 includes any pension contribution?
On a good month on the orginal SFO scale (i.e. not TRSS) I take £2800 plus I've contributed about £250 to the pension fund and I'm Scottish based......
On a good month on the orginal SFO scale (i.e. not TRSS) I take £2800 plus I've contributed about £250 to the pension fund and I'm Scottish based......
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10002level must be extraordinary lucky. Most of us will take home £2500-3000 per month after tax depending on sectors flown.
Long sectors are paid at 1.5 sectors each, short ones 0.8, and medium ones 1.2. Depending on bases you fly 45-60 sectors per month at about £12 for a nominal sector.
Basic before tax is £38-42k for non-TRSS SFOs.
Don't ask me about TRSS - all I know is that it's daylight robbery. It's disgusting that people who have paid their way through flight school and exams and served apprenticeships on night freight, sheds and regional turbos are asked to pay for their type ratings out of their own pockets at ZERO COST to a company that regularly makes tens of millions in profit.
(That's my 2p worth - off now to spend the other £2699.98 now!)
10002level - East Mids by any chance, you dosser?
Long sectors are paid at 1.5 sectors each, short ones 0.8, and medium ones 1.2. Depending on bases you fly 45-60 sectors per month at about £12 for a nominal sector.
Basic before tax is £38-42k for non-TRSS SFOs.
Don't ask me about TRSS - all I know is that it's daylight robbery. It's disgusting that people who have paid their way through flight school and exams and served apprenticeships on night freight, sheds and regional turbos are asked to pay for their type ratings out of their own pockets at ZERO COST to a company that regularly makes tens of millions in profit.
(That's my 2p worth - off now to spend the other £2699.98 now!)
10002level - East Mids by any chance, you dosser?
You gimboid,
"Don't ask me about TRSS - all I know is that it's daylight robbery. It's disgusting that people who have paid their way through flight school and exams and served apprenticeships on night freight, sheds and regional turbos are asked to pay for their type ratings out of their own pockets at ZERO COST to a company that regularly makes tens of millions in profit."
I agree it is disgusting, but as a generation of pilots we have made our bed and now we have to lie in it!
"Don't ask me about TRSS - all I know is that it's daylight robbery. It's disgusting that people who have paid their way through flight school and exams and served apprenticeships on night freight, sheds and regional turbos are asked to pay for their type ratings out of their own pockets at ZERO COST to a company that regularly makes tens of millions in profit."
I agree it is disgusting, but as a generation of pilots we have made our bed and now we have to lie in it!
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I disagree. It is nothing to do with pilots. This bed has been made by the mean-spirited, grasping bean counters who have resented paying pilots high salaries and training costs all these years, and who have finally got their chance at the trough. And due to a glut of new pilots, they are making YOU pay for THEIR fat profits, bonuses and share options.
As the man said - "it ain't much, but it's the only show in town."
I disagree. It is nothing to do with pilots. This bed has been made by the mean-spirited, grasping bean counters who have resented paying pilots high salaries and training costs all these years, and who have finally got their chance at the trough. And due to a glut of new pilots, they are making YOU pay for THEIR fat profits, bonuses and share options.
As the man said - "it ain't much, but it's the only show in town."
You Gimboid,
No, not EMA based, but keep on guessing..........
Looks as though I am doing above average for pay, but my body does keep telling me that I am working hard for it. Would happily forefit some pay for a life though.
No, not EMA based, but keep on guessing..........
Looks as though I am doing above average for pay, but my body does keep telling me that I am working hard for it. Would happily forefit some pay for a life though.
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Perhaps some of you Easy F/Os could give us some idea of your lifestyle. That is, how hard are you actually working, are you getting any enjoyment out of it or just permanently knackered?
Would you recommend the company to someone looking for a step up from Turboprop to a jet?
How about the rosters? Stable, or not? Are you able to plan your life or expect the whole thing to change at a moments notice?
Cheers!
Would you recommend the company to someone looking for a step up from Turboprop to a jet?
How about the rosters? Stable, or not? Are you able to plan your life or expect the whole thing to change at a moments notice?
Cheers!
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how can you be an SFO (senior?) if you are joining a company on a sponsored ttr scheme. I thought being senior also inferred having the time on type to handle all situations.
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how can you be an SFO (senior?) if you are joining a company on a sponsored ttr scheme. I thought being senior also inferred having the time on type to handle all situations.
Further about lifestyle:
Having been based at 3 different easy bases I can say that lifestyle is very much dependant per base in my opinion.
In LGW I did the most duty hours, at an other London base I totalled 898 block-hours in 2003.
Average wage per month (excl. own pension contribution) NET is around 2900 pounds, which means having flown around 40 sectors and 80 block hours for a SFO.
Don't forget Scottish bases fly more sectors (shorter) and allthough they're payed times 0.8 they still end up with a little higher NET income per month.
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I'm starting with easyjet as a SFO it's to do with your experience level, I'm currently a Captain on a turboprop with 3000 hours.
Basic T did you ask to be based at these 3 different bases or did easyJet move you around at there own will?
Basic T did you ask to be based at these 3 different bases or did easyJet move you around at there own will?
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Again, it depends on the base. LGW or BFS FOs will tell you to jump at it. LPL or LTN FOs will tell you to run, very fast, in the opposite direction.
If you have no ties, get in there, get on the Airbus and move to Berlin. Otherwise, stay well away from the low-cost sector, some things in life are really not worth the effort.
Getting your first jet is a great feeling, but in the relentless grind of EZY shorthaul the shine wears off very quickly. Even the former temptation of an early command is no longer valid unless you are TRSS and locked in for 5 years.
Walk a week in my shoes and you wouldn't want to do it. Talk to other guys at other bases and it might seem like a picnic.
Best of luck whatever you choose.
PS 10002level - BFS, right?
Again, it depends on the base. LGW or BFS FOs will tell you to jump at it. LPL or LTN FOs will tell you to run, very fast, in the opposite direction.
If you have no ties, get in there, get on the Airbus and move to Berlin. Otherwise, stay well away from the low-cost sector, some things in life are really not worth the effort.
Getting your first jet is a great feeling, but in the relentless grind of EZY shorthaul the shine wears off very quickly. Even the former temptation of an early command is no longer valid unless you are TRSS and locked in for 5 years.
Walk a week in my shoes and you wouldn't want to do it. Talk to other guys at other bases and it might seem like a picnic.
Best of luck whatever you choose.
PS 10002level - BFS, right?
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If you considering joining EZY at the moment then my bit of advice at the moment is dont.
The company is on a cost cutting drive at the moment and this is being recognised by alot of the more senior guys who are leaving in their droves. We have had nine trainers/base captains/good guys give their notice lately. One of these captains was about as orange as they get....he is off to new pastures.
There is alot of change happening at the moment ( especially to our rosters) and in my opinion it is not for the best!
The chance of a quick command and the money associated with it(that is the only reason that people stay at EZY) has vanished in the past six months. There are currently approx 26 guys waiting for their commands, with no more boeing commands at the mo and the company stopping seat/type conversions where are they going to go.
Alot of people are trying to escape( emirates and etihad just need to sort out their t + c's) and it is purely because they have had enough. 900 hrs a year is do-able but not with the way we are rostered it. Spent three days in the back of a cab the other week, for a total of six sectors....very productive!!! To make it worse we dont even get paid for positioning in a taxi....but the cabin crew do!
They will tell you how great a lifestyle you will have and that you will be back at home every night...I can assure you this not true! When the magical cammand comes wher do you think it will be?...your home base....at the worst Luton....NOPE!!! It will be in some new EZY base somewhere in the middle of Europe.
Training is great though and you will fly with some great guys. You will also do loads of great flying but the novelty does wear off after a while.
All the best whatever you choose to do
The company is on a cost cutting drive at the moment and this is being recognised by alot of the more senior guys who are leaving in their droves. We have had nine trainers/base captains/good guys give their notice lately. One of these captains was about as orange as they get....he is off to new pastures.
There is alot of change happening at the moment ( especially to our rosters) and in my opinion it is not for the best!
The chance of a quick command and the money associated with it(that is the only reason that people stay at EZY) has vanished in the past six months. There are currently approx 26 guys waiting for their commands, with no more boeing commands at the mo and the company stopping seat/type conversions where are they going to go.
Alot of people are trying to escape( emirates and etihad just need to sort out their t + c's) and it is purely because they have had enough. 900 hrs a year is do-able but not with the way we are rostered it. Spent three days in the back of a cab the other week, for a total of six sectors....very productive!!! To make it worse we dont even get paid for positioning in a taxi....but the cabin crew do!
They will tell you how great a lifestyle you will have and that you will be back at home every night...I can assure you this not true! When the magical cammand comes wher do you think it will be?...your home base....at the worst Luton....NOPE!!! It will be in some new EZY base somewhere in the middle of Europe.
Training is great though and you will fly with some great guys. You will also do loads of great flying but the novelty does wear off after a while.
All the best whatever you choose to do