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Old 15th January 2005 | 11:39
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Or how about leaving Gatwick at 2100 and operating to Accra, Ghana. This is followed by a 90 minute turnround (if you are lucky) and deadheading (6h 45min block) in a charter seat to return to Gatwick.

A regular occurence on the A300/B757 last summer.

Some people even got rostered to do the same thing to Banjul, Gambia (6 hours each way) the previous day!

What fun and completely legal. People are potentially getting sacked for having a couple of glasses of wine the night before a flight while this type of rostering is still allowed.
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Old 15th January 2005 | 15:21
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If the 767 is entering the Monarch fleet why not use the same crew which are now flying the 757? It is a common type rating.
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Old 15th January 2005 | 15:29
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ocho gardena

Genius....if only the airline had thought of that.........

Who else do you think will be flying the 767?
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Old 15th January 2005 | 16:54
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No answer as yet to the "holding pool" post back a while.

Are they still sifting through applications or can we assume that nothing heard from a CV sent before Christmas is bad news??

I know about 5 guys that have been interviewed and offered jobs the same day.
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Old 15th January 2005 | 17:22
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It did seem that they needed people for immediate starts due to a 757 course that has already commenced. Don't be surprised if you don't hear, takes a while for Monarch's slick and well planned recruitement procedure to get up to speed.

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Old 15th January 2005 | 21:58
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Mondriver,

Nice attitude. Perhaps you are the reason why some Monarch drivers want to leave - I'm sure you're fun to fly with... Another jacka$$ with a short temper.
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Old 15th January 2005 | 22:58
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Devil

Mondriver was only pointing out the obvious!
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Old 15th January 2005 | 23:56
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Another jacka$$ with a short temper.

So what do that make you??????????
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Old 16th January 2005 | 03:29
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Alloy and Unwiseowl,

Some people are not familiar with cross-qualification or that 757s and 767s have common cockpits. Not everyone on these boards is an aviation genious like you are! It's not so obvious to everyone. Plus, Mondriver's statement doesn't add anything to the conversation - it is a slam and worthless to the discussion.

Instead of slamming people who aren't so familiar, why not provide some good information focusing on Monarch and its operation. That's the point.
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Old 16th January 2005 | 04:36
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The point is Riker you threw your toys out of the pram, enough said

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Old 16th January 2005 | 05:15
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matzpenetration the starting salaries for CTC pilots once employed permanently by Monarch, are the bottom scale on Scale C, £39000, just the same as any new joiner to Monarch.
This is incorrect. The ex-CTC pilots employed as of 1st November last year are on £31047 to be precise. And bonded for £12k despite line flying for six months with no salary. When they have 1000 company hours they move to point 1, ie. £39k.

With experienced guys coming in on £39k, we'll have the odd situation of pilots higher on the seniority list earning lower salaries!
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Old 16th January 2005 | 09:51
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Monarch is still a great company to work for but as in any organisation you will get the whingers. The reality is that more and more of us are going to be working our 900 contract hours in the future so if it doesn't appeal to you stay away from aviation.

Concerning scale C, the dispute with the company at the moment isn't about improving scale C but about maintaining the differential between scale A&B and scale C.( ie pilots are concerned that when the majority of pilots are on scale C they will use their advantage to improve their conditions at the expense of A&B)

If you want a free rating, fly plenty of hours and be part of a rapidly changing airline, then apply. Sitting around for someone to offer you the perfect flying job is a mugs game.

Back to bed
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Old 16th January 2005 | 14:12
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"The point is Riker you threw your toys out of the pram, enough said

EGGW"

You're hilarious! Did everyone read that? Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
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Old 16th January 2005 | 14:35
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Got an interview next week.

What is the deal with staff travel. The more detail the better.

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Old 16th January 2005 | 15:11
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Don't join for the staff travel. I've yet to find a deal from Staff Travel that can't be beaten by the likes of Touchdown, TIS or interlinebookers. After many years of trying you can now just turn up and travel on a stby basis but if you've got firm plans then its still easier (and probably cheaper) getting confirmed with somebody else. After eight years though you do get a confimed flight free every year (shorthaul only) or a discount on a Cosmos package. Neither worth much but better than nothing. Occasionaly something good will turn up at a discount (e.g Santa Flights) but these always seems to be embargoed pretty quickly.
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Old 20th January 2005 | 08:48
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what is the official roster pattern for A320 out of MAN and how does it change for Summer/Winter?

Thanks
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Old 20th January 2005 | 09:44
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There is not an "Official Roster Pattern" unless very busy counts! Summer is very busy and winter is also very busy! Most A320 MAN flights are Monarch Scheduled flights (In winter less crews are brought into MAN to cover the flights).
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Old 20th January 2005 | 10:07
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I'm MAN Fly By Wire - the Summer vs Winter roster pattern is very similar. It averages out somewhere between a minimum of 12 to a maximum of 18 flights per month. As we're doing predominantly scheduled work on the FBW fleet - it will typically be a run of 4/5 earlies or lates with 2 days off in between the next block of work - possibly 3 days between blocks with a Rest Day added to the days off. Standbys are few and far between - my Jan roster has 5 days longhaul away from base [I'm 320/321/330]10 days shorthaul, a weeks leave, 6 days off, 1 rest day, 1 standby and 1 classroom ground duty - busy? yes - but it's that time of year.

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Old 20th January 2005 | 10:30
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ductedFan/Alloy - cheers for the reply!
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Old 1st February 2005 | 13:48
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Much better dealer knocked out between the company and BALPA for new joiners - makes staying long term more attractive.

Mainly an opportunity to move on to wide body scales with seniority.

Those who have joined in the last few weeks (or are about to join) should be very pleasantly surprised. Other things can be worked on in the future.
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