Standby AFTER a duty.
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Seem's that you can do a standby after a duty but not before.
http--www.caa.co.uk-doc-33-FODCOM200229.pdf
Page 7 of 23, para 12.5.
Actually page 28 of 44 on the Pdf .
When any period of standby finishes, during which a callout has not occurred, at least 12 hours rest must follow prior to the next duty period. Similarly, following the end of contactable period or periods at least 10 hours must elapse prior to the next duty period.
Hope this helps.
http--www.caa.co.uk-doc-33-FODCOM200229.pdf
Page 7 of 23, para 12.5.
Actually page 28 of 44 on the Pdf .
When any period of standby finishes, during which a callout has not occurred, at least 12 hours rest must follow prior to the next duty period. Similarly, following the end of contactable period or periods at least 10 hours must elapse prior to the next duty period.
Hope this helps.
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Smokie,
But you're being rostered for a combined SBY/FDP. Whilst the regulations can't cover every eventuality your SBY will not actually come to an end because it goes straight into an FDP in the same duty period and the rest period will not commence until completion of this entire duty.
To play it another way, they not roster you for the FDP, they just call you out on the SBY for it, the end result is the same but that doesn't help you plan your life.
I believe you'll find your quoted 12 hours rest is incorrect also, unless CAP371 has changed since I worked with it, 12 hours is the minimum rest at base, if you're away from base and/or in accommodation provided by the company then minimum rest is 11 hours subject to the travelling time between the airport and the accommodation.
But you're being rostered for a combined SBY/FDP. Whilst the regulations can't cover every eventuality your SBY will not actually come to an end because it goes straight into an FDP in the same duty period and the rest period will not commence until completion of this entire duty.
To play it another way, they not roster you for the FDP, they just call you out on the SBY for it, the end result is the same but that doesn't help you plan your life.
I believe you'll find your quoted 12 hours rest is incorrect also, unless CAP371 has changed since I worked with it, 12 hours is the minimum rest at base, if you're away from base and/or in accommodation provided by the company then minimum rest is 11 hours subject to the travelling time between the airport and the accommodation.
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Not heard that one, there was some banter pre CAP371 4th edition about changing the early rules when UK Crews night stop in Europe but it was eventually put to one side in the "too complicated to handle tray".
Not heard that one, there was some banter pre CAP371 4th edition about changing the early rules when UK Crews night stop in Europe but it was eventually put to one side in the "too complicated to handle tray".
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It seems to me, and please I don't not mean this as an insult to anyone
that a lot of people in this business try to argue themselves out of a job. It is like work is something to fit inbetween everyday routine if you have time.
I always expect to have to give the company a full day to the max, because that is my job.
If it works out that I get home early then I treat it is a pleasant surprise and it makes the job feel more positive.
At the 'lower end of the market' we have to expect to be messed around somewhat and your 'company ' is only trying to stay in business and keep you in a job in what are very difficult circumstances at the moment.
Personally, as an employer, if people moaned when the going was tough, they would be last on the list of 'rewards' when the company prospects improved and first out of the door.
Anyone got a ladder? my soapbox is taller that I first thought
that a lot of people in this business try to argue themselves out of a job. It is like work is something to fit inbetween everyday routine if you have time. I always expect to have to give the company a full day to the max, because that is my job.
If it works out that I get home early then I treat it is a pleasant surprise and it makes the job feel more positive.
At the 'lower end of the market' we have to expect to be messed around somewhat and your 'company ' is only trying to stay in business and keep you in a job in what are very difficult circumstances at the moment.
Personally, as an employer, if people moaned when the going was tough, they would be last on the list of 'rewards' when the company prospects improved and first out of the door.
Anyone got a ladder? my soapbox is taller that I first thought
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Why should people be messed around ?
If people stopped accepting this rubbish the industry might drag itself into the 21st century- fat chance though!
At the 'lower end of the market' we have to expect to be messed around somewhat
If people stopped accepting this rubbish the industry might drag itself into the 21st century- fat chance though!
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Size isn't everything Stan 
To be honest that is not some thing I have ever had the ambition to do, nor will I. Don't even like the Autopilot on a Cessna 310.
If I could get back to my floatplane charter I would be there in a flash.
Aztec? only for fun.
To be honest that is not some thing I have ever had the ambition to do, nor will I. Don't even like the Autopilot on a Cessna 310.
If I could get back to my floatplane charter I would be there in a flash.
Aztec? only for fun.
