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Always find it amusing to hear lectures on appropriate RT from the country who brought us ‘practice pans’
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Originally Posted by stilton
(Post 11779815)
Always find it amusing to hear lectures on appropriate RT from the country who brought us ‘practice pans’
For clarity, the US has a great number of things I admire, including many in aviation. R/T is not one of them, however. |
Originally Posted by Speed_Trim_Fail
(Post 11780250)
Which at least serve a purpose, unlike endless “miaowing” :rolleyes:
For clarity, the US has a great number of things I admire, including many in aviation. R/T is not one of them, however. GOLF INDIA CHARLIE BIT MY FINGAH position….(27 minutes later)…penetrate your MATZ OVAAAH #rollthetrucks But yes, the standards of US ATC are atrocious. Taking the average US Regional pilot anywhere Europe or Asia is like taking a kid with Downs to a musical. |
Originally Posted by stilton
(Post 11779815)
Always find it amusing to hear lectures on appropriate RT from the country who brought us ‘practice pans’
Originally Posted by WHBM And what do USA controllers make of "Pan Pan Pan" ? |
Originally Posted by meleagertoo
(Post 11780904)
My understanding is that the FAA (among a number of other juristictions worldwide) does not officially recognise/adopt this phraseology. If this is indeed the case one can only wonder why, it's a extremely useful to be able to declare a level of urgency rather than an outright (by definition potentially life threatening) emergency.
A pilot who encounters a Distress condition should declare an emergency by beginning the initial communication with the word “Mayday,” preferably repeated three times. For an Urgency condition, the word “Pan-Pan” should be used in the same manner. |
Originally Posted by hans brinker
(Post 11714458)
Have had 5 emergencies where I felt emergency services on the ground would be prudent while flying in the US in the last 2 decades. " Declaring an emergency, request fire and rescue upon arrival". Worked every single time. And I am sure "roll the trucks" would have worked too. Before that, I flew in the EU (for almost a decade, and not from the US myself) I declared an emergency, twice, did the "mayday-x3", repeated it on every frequency, advised ATC we would be unable to vacate the runway due to a hydraulic failure, and still had a couple of aircraft behind us forced into go around because ATC did not realize that we would need a tow after landing. Maybe the US isn't very ICAO, but at least the controllers understand English and aviation. (yes, I have had bad luck, and I have at least another 5 emergencies that didn't require "the trucks".)
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You all are essentially asserting, with absolutely no evidence, that us cowboys over here ask, during emergency situations, to “Roll the Trucks”. The only stories of such verbiage in use on this thread, clearly attribute that phraseology to ATC, not, to pilots.
Drop it. It’s getting stale |
Originally Posted by Amadis of Gaul
(Post 11781542)
You're bad luck, aren't you?:)
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Originally Posted by 421dog
(Post 11781600)
You all are essentially asserting, with absolutely no evidence, that us cowboys over here ask, during emergency situations, to “Roll the Trucks”. The only stories of such verbiage in use on this thread, clearly attribute that phraseology to ATC, not, to pilots.
Drop it. It’s getting stale |
"Roll the equipment"
awaiting incoming :} |
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