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Climax 18th June 2021 14:09

Fuel dump/jettison in stormy area
 
Hi everybody,

I'm looking about restrictions for fuel jettisson (in flight) in stormy weather conditions. Can't see anything in 777 FCOM, I don't remember on A330. Do your compagny or your aircraft's manuel mention any kind of restriction or recommandation about this particulary situation?

Uplinker 18th June 2021 17:13

This is a cut and paste from the OMA of a now defunct airline:

"The jettison operation should not be conducted below 6 000 ft above ground.
Fuel jettison in a holding pattern and descent within the area previously used for jettison should be avoided in order to remain outside the kerosene cloud.
Fuel jettison
should not be performed in the vicinity of thunderstorm activity."

BizJetJock 18th June 2021 18:37

From a Bombardier QRH:
Jettisoning of fuel in known lightning conditions is prohibited.

mustafagander 19th June 2021 11:06

Boeing information, as I recall it, is that at normal speeds for fuel jettison the flame front burns slower than the aircraft is moving so it will always drift backwards and never catch up with the aircraft.

Pugilistic Animus 20th June 2021 17:33

BizJetJock

Wait a minute, I had no idea that a Bombardier could jettison fuel.

BizJetJock 20th June 2021 18:14

Depends on the type. The 600 series models with tail tanks are able to dump the tail if the transfer system fails or is inhibited folloewing a rotor burst to prevent the c of g going too far aft as you burn off the rest of the fuel.

meleagertoo 20th June 2021 18:32

Are there any documented cases of dumped fuel being ignited by anthing other than an afternurner?

tdracer 20th June 2021 19:01

There was a flying boat back before WWII that exploded and crashed while dumping fuel.
Granted, that was gasoline, not jet fuel, and the investigation was cursory, but food for thought...

capricorn23 20th June 2021 21:15

https://www.thisdayinaviation.com/tag/samoan-clipper/

Climax 23rd June 2021 08:54

Thanks for all gentlemen ...

Climax 7th August 2021 00:07

Further informations, it's written in:

- OACI doc
- EASA doc
- A340 abnormal proc
- A 380 abnormal proc
- A350 abnormal proc
- B 744 abnormal proc etc....

It seems to be everywhere but in 777/787 doc. Are those aircrafts lightning-proof?

rigpiggy 17th August 2021 15:51

I read about a c46 that exploded over the hump that was attributed to fuel entering the janitrol

blind pew 18th August 2021 07:47

Boeing 720 or 707?
 
Iirc at a military demonstration during the 60s one flew through it’s fuel dump and exploded. There was a film clip of it.

grrowler 19th August 2021 07:06

Could one apply common sense?


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