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Mariner 26th December 2019 10:31

Pilots over 60 yrs
 
Quick question: are two pilots over 60 in the cockpit allowed under EASA-rules?
I've searched here and Googled it but couldn't find a certain answer.

Scagrams 26th December 2019 11:25

Nope. For commercial flying that is.

lansen 26th December 2019 11:48


Originally Posted by Mariner (Post 10647546)
Quick question: are two pilots over 60 in the cockpit allowed under EASA-rules?
I've searched here and Googled it but couldn't find a certain answer.

EASA FCL.065

Did you have an interesting discussion with your colleague on the last flight? :}

Goldenrivett 26th December 2019 12:33


are two pilots over 60 in the cockpit allowed under EASA-rules?
https://www.icao.int/safety/aviation...%20Study_c.pdf

That was the case in 2006, but not since 2013.

Cole Burner 26th December 2019 12:46


Originally Posted by Mariner (Post 10647546)
Quick question: are two pilots over 60 in the cockpit allowed under EASA-rules?

Yes, see EASA FCL.065 at page 52 in the link below.

https://www.easa.europa.eu/sites/def...u/Part-FCL.pdf

172510 26th December 2019 17:30

It should be alleviated https://www.easa.europa.eu/document-...arepresea20171

But maybe not before it's too late for some of us.

Mariner 26th December 2019 18:50


Originally Posted by lansen (Post 10647577)
EASA FCL.065

Did you have an interesting discussion with your colleague on the last flight? :}

Not really. But I recently joined a company who (still) have this over-60 pairing restriction in their OM-A. I know this was initially the rule when the mandatory retirement age was increased to 65 from 60. I thought I heard this rule was changed but couldn't find it anywhere.

Thanks for the info guys. I'll let our Compliance manager know, see if he wants to change the book.



Bueno Hombre 27th December 2019 09:04

Ageism , sexism , religionism... descrimination
 
racialissmAgeism , sexism , religionism. racialism.. discrimination should not be allowed when hiring pilots unless future proper studies reveal that these classifications of pilots have significantly more accidents and/or bad airline decisions for their airline company.

compressor stall 27th December 2019 10:59


Originally Posted by Bueno Hombre (Post 10648063)
racialissmAgeism , sexism , religionism. racialism.. discrimination should not be allowed when hiring pilots unless future proper studies reveal that these classifications of pilots have significantly more accidents and/or bad airline decisions for their airline company.

Nice sentiment but this is ICAO's take on it a few years ago.

https://www.icao.int/NACC/Documents/...ICAO-Evans.pdf

There is not yet the confidence in medical screening to go further.

I am a little sceptical of the way some of these data are presented - ie. do the statistics actually represent the dataset of pilots where ill health is a barrier to entry.


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