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Skyray 30th July 2012 18:10

737 Flap Trim Repair - Bad Communication Judgment
 
Flying N611AS on Saturday as a passenger, looked out the window to see the following "notation" on the flap: http://i.imgur.com/Rr9wN.jpg

While I could see that it was a clean cut and too small to be a flight safety issue, the repair crew's method of communication didn't do a lot to instill confidence in their professionalism or general good sense.

Alaska's T w i t t e r support responded that it was a "permanent approved trim repair," but that the "method of communication was not appropriate." :)

Curious: By "trim repair," they mean trimming the break to a clean curve, and not something to do with the actual aircraft trim, right?

A stencil might be a better alternative to a Sharpie next time...

flydive1 30th July 2012 18:17

Maybe it was a message for the passengers seeing the damage.

Not to worry, we know about it and is ok.

Denti 30th July 2012 18:54

That made my day :) Very funny way to communicate that this situation is known and OK.

Yeelep 31st July 2012 06:06


Curious: By "trim repair," they mean trimming the break to a clean curve, and not something to do with the actual aircraft trim, right?
Correct, nothing to do with aircraft trim.


A stencil might be a better alternative to a Sharpie next time...
A Sharpie is commonly used, however the text isn't. If they wanted to indicate a known repair they should have written the the E.A. (engineering authorization) or PLT number.

IFixPlanes 31st July 2012 06:50

This is definitely a hint for the passenger...
Love it... :ok:

mad_jock 31st July 2012 07:28

That made me smile as well. Only way to make it funnier would be a spelling mistake thrown in.

Wouldn't it normally be declared in the tech log airframe damage sheet as well?

Looks like they do have a control number 6713 in white but must have got many comments from folk that didn't know what the number meant.

Capt. Inop 31st July 2012 14:40

Had a simiar experience with a missing winglet.

Written with a blue pen: the other one is still there.

ImbracableCrunk 31st July 2012 20:26

Meh. It's a -700. Alaska doesn't seem to care as much about those and their appearance. Now, if had been an ETOPS bird, there would have been a nice lei around the bite.

Yeelep 31st July 2012 20:56

Skyray: The writing will soon disappear, if it hasn't already. I just read a company e-mail compliance briefing about what is allowed to be written adjacent to allowable damage. Below the briefing is your picture as an example of what isn't acceptable.

Avionker 31st July 2012 21:20

I wonder if the text was an addition after the aircraft was returned to service? Perhaps pax had reported it and someone decided to write that there to reassure the pax on future flights. I do think it's kind of amusing personally.

Skyray 2nd August 2012 20:03

It's amusing in retrospect, but 100% of the non-aviation-savvy passengers I've showed it to said they would find it alarming. (But also funny, since it wasn't a flight they were on.)

Yeelep, that's awesome that the photo ended up in the compliance briefing! I totally appreciate what the maintenance crew was going for there, but a lot of passengers don't have a good sense of humor about aircraft maintenance at 38,000 feet. :)

flydive1 3rd August 2012 07:44

What would they have said if they saw the picture of the "damage" without the writing?

Capot 3rd August 2012 09:35

Quite a few would not have recognised it as damage, in spite of the discoloration; the trim is neat and for all many people know that's the shape of the flap, even if they've seen it a hundred times before in its normal shape.

To be recognised as such by all and sundry, damage should look crumpled, jagged, whatever, just obvious; or should have something written on it drawing attention to it.

LurkerBelow 3rd August 2012 10:23

You could also go along to your local cop shop and borrow one of their "Police Aware" sticky notices...

jakemilstein 6th August 2012 23:50

Skyray?
 
Skyray, were you the one on the plane? I work at KIRO7 in Seattle. Could you plz email me? jmilstein ( a t ) kirotv. com


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