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A320 memory items
Hello,
I fly the 320 for a major airline in the US. We use our own SOPs , and we have just one memory item ( O2 masks 100%). I understand that Airbus SOPs have about 7 memory items. Would anyone be kind enough to post them ? Thanks |
In our company:
QRH drill: Loss of braking QRH drill: GPWS alerts QRH drill EGPWS alerts QRH drill TCAS warnings QRH drill - immediate actions EMER Descent QRH drill - Low energy warning Memory Items - Unreliable Speed Indications |
ditto ipac
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Airbus FCOM 3.02.01 page 2a :
MEMORY ITEMS The following procedures are to be applied without referring to paper : Windshear, windshear ahead, TCAS, EGPWS, loss of braking, immediate actions of EMER DESCENT, immediate actions of UNRELIABLE SPEED INDICATION/ADR CHECK PROC, CREW INCAPACITATION. |
Thanks a lot .
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:confused:
How do you deal with loss of braking? Just curious. |
Use pedal (man) brakes
if not Full Reverse Release brake pedals A/Skid NWS - off Apply Alt braking (Max 1000 PSI) If still no joy Short succcessive appication of Park Brake (all 3000ish PSI) Then peel nose off windscreen :ugh: |
ood practice for me...
Max Reverse Release brakes pressure Switch off A/Skid N.W. Steering switch Increase brake pressure. If still no brakes... Use hand brakes in short sharp shots. Off to the books and confirm |
Also, FCOM 3 TOME 2 states under SOPs that the flows have to be "performed from memory".
It is also a good idea to commit to memory the procedure for recovery from loss of FMS data/ severe reset specially when it happens during approach or close to landing. The 7 memory items stated in FCOM 3.02.01 P2a and SOPs Standard Callouts 3.03.90 p4: 1) Windshear/ windshear ahead: "Windshear, TOGA" 3.02.80 p19 2) TCAS: "Traffic, I have control" 3.02.34 p12 and p17 3) EGPWS: "Pull up, TOGA" 3.02.34 p15 4) Loss of braking "Loss of braking" 3.02.32 p11 5) Immediate actions of EMER DESCENT "Emergency Descent" 3.02.80 p7 6) Immediate actions of UNRELIABLE SPEED INDICATION/ ADR CHECK PROC "Unreliable speed" 3.02.34 p20 7) CREW INCAPACITATION 3.02.80 p9 But if you read the FCTM, Airbus will tell you there are no memory items! |
Ok, can I ask what you do when a crew incapacitation occurs? And more importantly what if both members of crew become incapacitated?
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Greetings
Just Pray :} |
Hi,
according to the unreliable speed indication: do you have to know the proper pitch angles for specific airspeeds and Grossweights or is just the technique to get a stable flightpath and to compare the flight data from the different ADRs a memory item? best regards, luke |
Below acceleration altitude: TOGA, 15 degrees NU
Above that but below 10,000': CLB, 10 degrees NU Above 10,000': CLB, 5 degrees NU QRH then has various pitch / power couples for different weights and altitudes as it recommends you consider levelling off above MSA, as an increase in altitude may make the speed error even worse. If you need a higher nose up pitch to stay level then you're a bit slow, and vice versa. Hope that helps. |
Yes of course it helps!
Thank you! :ok: |
Crew incapacitation actions are writen in the FCTM and the FCOM 3. (this for the airbus)
Basically, you have to take over pressing the red push botton on the side-stick 45seconds. Return to the safe flight and engage the A/P (your side). Then, "purser to cockpit please" by the PA, ask her/him to fasten the seat belt and move the seat backwards (so as to not to interfere in the instruments or with the handling of the aircraft). In addition ask for any qualified pilot on board and a doctor. Declare emergency,In the mean time, in the MCDU you have an option which is called closest airports, with the information of the four nearest airport around you (check on the maps/charts the suitable, runway length...). If you don´t have the last weather report ask for it, request proceed to, priority, high speed, radar vectors.. Well, a good idea would be inform the passengers (I wouldn´t say the real problem at all..) When approaching, inform to the ATC that you are going to stop the aircraft on the rwy and medical assistance is required(giving all the details about the incapacitated crew) Prepare the approach and read the check list earlier than usual. Request radar vectoring and prefer a long approach to reduce work load. if both are incapacitated,,,just pray or sing a song untill run out of fuel. bye |
A couple more I use:
Engine Tailpipe fire. Rudder Jam - Use differential braking Flat/Slat lock - Pull speed. Stall recovery - (More for the sim). FIS |
I WOULD MEMORIZE IT THIS WAY :
WET GLU INCAPACITATION ..:ok: W: WIND SHEAR E:EMERGENCY DESCENT T: Tcas G:GPWS L:LOSS OF BRAKING U: UNRELIABLE SPEED AND INCAPACITATION ,,,:ugh: |
Windshear/Windshear ahead
Egpws Tcas Crew incapacitation Loss of braking Unreliable speed Emergency descent |
Memory items
Any thought on RTO as memory item. Up until you stop and ask for ECAM or On Ground Emergency Evacuation Checklist?
elac2 |
By that logic elac, you'd also have advancing the power as a Memory Item. And rotation. And gear up. And flare ... :ugh:
And the memory items ARE in the FCTM. Although the list is not exactly the same as the FCOMs :eek: |
Memory items
Do not you think Oxy is a very important memory item that is not included
in the memory items list? Also the unreliable speed above 10000 ft does not clearly say that it should only be used during climb and not cruise. Loss of braking is another issue because of the loss of nose wheel steering if memory items followed. |
Preelut
P-predictive Windshear (windshear Ahead) R-reactive Windshear (u R In The Windshear) E-emergency Descent E-egpws Warning L-loss Of Braking U-unreliable Speed Indication T-tcas Resolution Advisory |
Two more...
Two more...
Stall and Stall on Takeoff.... I'm thinking it's a total of ten memory checklists. K-Skywalker listed seven. Pilot Incapacitation is eight. The two listed above make ten. The Stall and Stall on Takeoff are new. Tailpipe fire is not one of them....but, I fell it could/should be....as mentioned. Fly safe, PantLoad |
10 on my list as per pantload:)
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The way i remember the 10 memory items are with the acronym
WETLUG SSC W- Windshear Ahead & Windshear (2) E-Emer Descent T-Tcas L-Loss of Braking U- Unreliable speed G- eGpws S-Stall warning at lift off S-Stall C-Crew Incapacitation... hope this helps..... |
Another less appropriate way to remember them is: Pilot Wagesluts
Pilot (incapacitation) W (windshear ahead) A (actual windshear) G (EGPWS) E (emergency descent) S (stall) L (loss of braking) U (unreliable airspeed) T (TCAS) S (stall on takeoff) might work for those with a mind not indifferent to mine... :ok: |
incapacitationboth pilots
"just pray" ------???
How can you "just pray" if you are incapacitated. . ?:rolleyes: |
sand groper:
"Another less appropriate way to remember them is: Pilot Wagesluts Pilot (incapacitation) W (windshear ahead) A (actual windshear) G (EGPWS) E (emergency descent) S (stall) L (loss of braking) U (unreliable airspeed) T (TCAS) S (stall on takeoff) might work for those with a mind not indifferent to mine... http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ies/thumbs.gif" ================================================= Thanks sand groper - Perfect!! UA |
10 Memory Items + Limitations
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Old thread I know, but given the changes over the last decade, I now use:
GUTLESS.W (Gutless Wonder, American slang often cited in Westerns) GPWS/EGPWS Warnings and Cautions Unreliable Speed TCAS Loss of Braking Emergency Decent Stall Warning Stall at Lift off Windshear and Windshear Ahead |
Originally Posted by Superpilot
(Post 11198157)
Old thread I know, but given the changes over the last decade, I now use:
GUTLESS.W (Gutless Wonder, American slang often cited in Westerns) GPWS/EGPWS Warnings and Cautions Unreliable Speed TCAS Loss of Braking Emergency Decent Stall Warning Stall at Lift off Windshear and Windshear Ahead Even better now that Windshear Ahead is not a memory item anymore. I use this one: W.EGGS.SLUT. Windshear Warning Emergency Descent GPWS/EGPWS Cautions GPWS/EGPWS Warnings Stall Recovery Stall Warning at lift off Loss of braking Unreliable Airspeed Indication TCAS Warnings. |
Alternatively another great way to remember these if you're not an acronym person, use a flow pattern on the cockpit instruments.
For example, if you're a LHS pilot, from left to right: Airspeed Indicator: Unreliable Airspeed, Stall Warning at lift-off, Stall Recovery VSI: TCAS Wind indicator on the ND: Windshear TERR on ND switch: EGPWS warnings, EGPWS cautions FCU: Emergency Descent Anti-skid/NWS switch: Loss of Braking |
Originally Posted by Ipaq
(Post 4307188)
In our company:
QRH drill: Loss of braking QRH drill: GPWS alerts QRH drill EGPWS alerts QRH drill TCAS warnings QRH drill - immediate actions EMER Descent QRH drill - Low energy warning Memory Items - Unreliable Speed Indications |
Originally Posted by Vessbot
(Post 11201389)
What does this mean - if you get a TCAS or a GPWS, or in the middle of landing rollout realize you have no braking, you're supposed to open the QRH?
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Originally Posted by dream747
(Post 11201102)
Alternatively another great way to remember these if you're not an acronym person, use a flow pattern on the cockpit instruments.
For example, if you're a LHS pilot, from left to right: Airspeed Indicator: Unreliable Airspeed, Stall Warning at lift-off, Stall Recovery VSI: TCAS Wind indicator on the ND: Windshear TERR on ND switch: EGPWS warnings, EGPWS cautions FCU: Emergency Descent Anti-skid/NWS switch: Loss of Braking
Originally Posted by Check Airman
(Post 11201620)
At my company, yes. :ugh:
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Originally Posted by pineteam
(Post 11201717)
I’m a big fan of Acronym but I must say this trick is pretty good too. Thank you for sharing! :ok:
How is that possible??? You get a TCAS RA you are supposed to be like: Hang on! Let’s get the QRH first instead of flying the plane?! Lol. Surely you apply the memory items first then maybe check the QRH right? Memory items are procedures to be taken without any delay. I’m curious to know the logic behind it. |
It's not important to remember how many items of memory are there. Any mnemonics will do. But all the actions required to be executed under each one of them is what saves the bacon. Those must not be forgotten.
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Totally agree with you Vilas. Unfortunately many instructors still love to ask these kind of questions like: How many memory items? What are they? Or like what is the max EGT for engine start? In my head I’m like: Just look at the EWD. :p
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Originally Posted by pineteam
(Post 11202155)
Totally agree with you Vilas. Unfortunately many instructors still love to ask these kind of questions like: How many memory items? What are they? Or like what is the max EGT for engine start? In my head I’m like: Just look at the EWD. :p
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