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18-Wheeler 11th March 2007 07:42

What Roller is this?
 
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...g?t=1173598829

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...g?t=1173598829

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...g?t=1173598830

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...g?t=1173598831

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...g?t=1173598922

Nene?

18-Wheeler 11th March 2007 08:10

Further quick search - Is it a Roller at all?

18-Wheeler 11th March 2007 09:08

Further searching shows it most likely to be an early Avon.
That right?

18-Wheeler 11th March 2007 12:40

No, a Nene has angled burner cans ->

http://www.lancastermuseum.ca/photos...rollsnene1.jpg


Whereas an early Avon (I'm guessing) has parallel cans ->

http://www.everettaero.com/avon122.jpg

So all going well, I've got myself an Avon .....

*evin manic laugh ....*

Dick Whittingham 11th March 2007 17:40

Doesn't look like an Avon to me, and it is definitely not a Nene, which had a double-sided centrifugal compressor. Scale would help. It looks small to me and may be an experimental VTOL engine. The Germans tried a VTOL with a bank of small vertical engines plus a big one for forward flight.

Dick W

ICT_SLB 12th March 2007 03:13

18,
Dick may be right - it looks a bit too small to be an Avon - that engine just about filled all of the back end of a Hunter. It might be an RB-166 - an engine that started as a lift engine but was used as takeoff assist for Hot Weather operations on a Trident 2E (Think I've got the right model). The R stood for Rolls & the B for Barnoldswick (same as RB-211). IIRC it had the highest thrust/weight ratio of any turbojet in (then) commercial use.

18-Wheeler 12th March 2007 05:42

I'm pretty sure it's an early Avon, it's just lacking the exhuast ducting so it looks short.

Dr Illitout 12th March 2007 12:53

It's an early Mk Avon. Those tripple bleed valves give it away. The later Mk's had sliding gate valve type bleed.

Rgds Dr I

Piltdown Man 12th March 2007 22:03

An Avon is also the most likely candidate as that is what was fitted the RAAF's Sabres (following an almost total re-design of the entire aircraft by GAF to get the bloody thing to fit).

PM

18-Wheeler 13th March 2007 03:18

Thanks guys.

I may be getting it, not sure yet.

Doctor Teeth 13th March 2007 15:06

It's not an RB162 which was used as the Boost Engine on the Trident 3 which I think ICT_SLB was referring to. That baby didn't have separate combustion cans and also had GRP compressor cases and blades, except for the final stage blades which I think were Kevlar.

rmm 14th March 2007 11:01

It looks like an AJ65 Avon minus the inlet. There's a picture of it in the book "The jet engine" by RR. It's on page 94 in my edition. (4th Edition 1986)

Rmm

18-Wheeler 14th March 2007 17:16

Ah never mind .... I missed out on getting it.
My dream jet car will have to wait. :(
Thanks anyway guys.

N1 Vibes 17th March 2007 01:31

18-wheeler

I hear the RAAF doesn't use all of it's F-111 a/c, perhaps you could put the enigne in a Roller, car that is...... :}


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