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Whisky 30th Jan 2003 20:14

Groundspeed Records
 
Hi all,

I’ve just started a new website about “Commercial Aircraft Groundspeed Records”.
It contains a database of most common aircraft and it’s current “Groundspeed Record” caught on camera.

Ever had that feeling of having that perfect tailwind resulting in such a high groundspeed that you were thinking: "I wonder if anyone has ever flown this fast?"
Well, this is the way to find out!

Take a picture of that special moment and share it with us so we can all enjoy it.

We’ll put it into a database together with some more information, maybe even a personal note of yourself about that day, and let's see when (or if) anyone will ever be able to improve your speed record.

Check it out at http://www.speedrecords.tk

Enjoy,
Whisky

Massey1Bravo 30th Jan 2003 20:57

Go and ask 18-wheeler, I'm sure he will be able to help you. http://64.207.13.28/mysmilies/otn/realhappy/biggrin.gif

witchdoctor 31st Jan 2003 09:07

Hard to beat Ryanair taxiing to/from the gate.:eek:

dmdrewitt 31st Jan 2003 09:49

Great idea for a website! Let's hope people get their digital cameras out and submit the pics!

Specnut727 31st Jan 2003 10:34

Thanks Whisky, the website is great. It'll be even better when more of the blank spaces get filled in.

If someone betters an earlier record, will it be possible to show the best 3 or 4 for each aircraft type, so we don't lose the history ?

Also, would anyone like to see the MINIMUM ground speed records (at cruise) as well ? Anyone unfortunate enough to be pushing into a 150 kt head wind would have plenty of time to take a pic !!

Whisky 31st Jan 2003 11:05

Thanks for the positive comments guys, great to hear that you all like it.

Yes Specnut, I was thinking about showing the top 3 or so per type. It would be fun if the guys would sent some more information together with the pictures as well, like some have done already. Should be great reading material.
We'll see what we can come up with all together.

And yes, there are to many empty spaces at the moment. Therefore I would like to ask you all, if you have a picture of your instruments where the groundspeed is readable, even when it is nothing spectaculair, to sent those pictures in as well, just to make a start.

Come on guys!!

Greetings,
Whisky

p.s. If someone has pictures, like Specnut mentions, of mega headwinds, feel free to sent them as well. I'll create a special page for those pictures..... that's gonna be fun. ;)

Tinstaafl 31st Jan 2003 17:45

I've had 220kts in an Islander. That was a radar g/s. Don't suppose I'll be so fortunate again...

DOC.400 31st Jan 2003 18:57

188kts in a Robin DR400 -Gloucester -Elstree in thirty minutes, probably ten of those minutes on finals!!

DOC

Onan the Clumsy 31st Jan 2003 19:42

No picture but 256 knots on descent with a 30kt tailwind in a Cessna 402!

Is descent ok? You never mentioned that it had to be at cruise.

Sheep Guts 31st Jan 2003 23:46

What about DHC-2,-3,-4,-5,-6 . Had 180KTS in an Otter at 1000 FT level and the same in a C206 . Also 270kts in a C90 on Decent but cant back up with Photos.


Good Idea

Good for Big Iron drivers

Regards
Sheep

411A 1st Feb 2003 01:53

728 knots, FUK-NRT, Tristar -500 (.84IMN), FL410

pigboat 1st Feb 2003 03:06

412 kt YYZ - YZV G159 FL270.
The boss came up front, took a look at the DME and said we'd have no need of our Hawker as long as we could keep the G1 going eastbound.

Check 6 1st Feb 2003 08:18

605 Kts in a Lear 24B Monterey to Tucson @ .80M FL390.

2daddies 1st Feb 2003 11:40

401 Knots Ground Speed in a B1900D.

Sector was Roma to Brisbane at FL250. I think the schedule allowed 60 minutes block to block and we did it in 42 minutes.

Going out there was a bit annoying, though! :*

ATPMBA 1st Feb 2003 19:17

600 knots in a Lear Jet 23 eastbound over Winslow, Arizona at FL 41.0
:cool:

eyeinthesky 2nd Feb 2003 13:37

QUOTE

600 knots in a Lear Jet 23 eastbound over Winslow, Arizona at FL 41.0

UNQUOTE

600 kts at 4100ft... That's not bad going, even for a Lear!!;)

210kts G/S for an IAS of 120kts at 1500ft on traffic patrol...:cool:

18-Wheeler 2nd Feb 2003 18:13

Out of Narita to Nadi in Fiji, just at top of climb we hit 698kts G/S.
It made up for the 330kts G/S on the way in! :D

Anyway, here's the fastest I've gone in level flight in anything -
http://www.billzilla.org/reallyhighmach.jpg

Mach 0.915, hand flown whilst taking the picture. The plane started to nod up & down slowly past about 0.9 odd ....

BLK 33 3rd Feb 2003 11:24

Jeez eyeinthesky - what the hell were you following!
It didn't have a Mr Schumacher driving I suppose?

eyeinthesky 3rd Feb 2003 19:35

Just a windy day around ol' London Town:D

G/S was about 45 kts coming back!

Carbon Life Form 4th Feb 2003 04:32

Groundspeed
 
701 knots enroute CLE-LGW B757-200, returning the next day our initial groundspeed was 270kts at FL350 lots of 'insufficient fuel' messages!

Fil 4th Feb 2003 09:16

Seen 150Kts @FL250 in an A319

IAS 190
TAS 250
Wind 100 on the nose
G/s 150.

The a/c that was 1000 ft above and about 10 miles behind had almost completed one complete hold by the time we arrived beneath it.

Dr. Bunsen Honeydew 4th Feb 2003 10:31

261 kts cruise in a Trislander :D (but also -6 kt for a while in the climbout on the way home:( )

Check 6 4th Feb 2003 11:08

-20 Kts ground speed in a Hughes 269 helicopter.

;)

Ozgrade3 4th Feb 2003 11:45

235 knts grounds speed as registered by the SFO DME at 12,000 feet going from lake Tahoe to San Francisco a few years ago in Duchess.

4T winks 4th Feb 2003 21:57

Once had 417 GS in a BE20 from UTTT to UBBB at F280, picked up the jetstream that happened to be going my way, desent was interesting, power off, nose down VSI off clock and controler even asked if i could reduce GS.... :eek: UBBB was interesting, passing 1500m encountered the worse turbulance, windshear and icing I ever had. wind went from aprox 280 to 020 in about 1000 ft, ILS to minima and wind on landing around 60kts gusting 70 straight off the caspian sea, made one of the shortest landings ever in a kingair... As for the way home, well what you win on one you lose on the other....:cool:

MaxBlow 4th Feb 2003 22:30

637 A300B4 eastbound to Cairo. Will try and find the picture
and send to you.

airmen 5th Feb 2003 01:01

500 kts over Germany @ FL310 on a Saab 2000:O

NW1 5th Feb 2003 11:03

http://bedsidemanor.users.btopenworl...mages/pic1.jpg

Whisky 5th Feb 2003 17:43

Thanks NW1, I was waiting for that one.....

Col. Walter E. Kurtz 6th Feb 2003 22:22

NW - Hard to argue with that!

NW1 6th Feb 2003 22:53

Here's the other half of the story......http://bedsidemanor.users.btopenworl...mages/pic2.jpg
Interesting how big the envelope still is up here: the minimum IAS is 300kts which is all of 183kts less than currently indicated.....

Fodgett 7th Feb 2003 19:08

It would be nice to have more aircraft types included in the database, such as business jets, military aircraft and small commuters.

777AV8R 8th Feb 2003 02:01

StarDate: 24 Nov 02 777-200 NRT - SFO 711 Kts

I beat that about a week later, but didn't enter it in my log book. Great idea for a site...this should add some 'fun-flavour' to things for a change!

18-Wheeler 8th Feb 2003 06:33

I flew with a guy yesterday that blows us all away - He's an ex-Boeing test pilot, and has flown a 747-400 to Mach 1.05 in a dive.
I don't know what the groundspeed was, but it was no doubt pretty high ....

White Knight 8th Feb 2003 15:53

A little over 500 kts at FL 250 in an ATR72 from Cork to Gatwick (that's eastbound for those of you unfamiliar with europe), I'd have to dig an old logbook out to confirm the actual speed but London ATCC kept asking us to confirm our aircraft type:D :D :D

wondering 9th Feb 2003 19:31

Any military guys care to comment? Like SR-71 drivers. Or are those numbers still classified? In any case, 1184kt GS looks pretty fast to most of us.

Once a while, I get to see a Concorde T/O in Paris. What can I say, she stands way above every other cilvilian airliner.

Whisky 16th Mar 2003 20:24

Well, the site is coming together nicely as pictures are being send in on a regular base.
Just wanted to bring this thread back to the top again. ;)

Keep 'm coming!

Whisky

18-Wheeler 17th Mar 2003 06:28

I've got a copy of that flight manual, BIK_116.80, and it seems to be pretty authentic indeed.

BTW, I checked up on that guy that reckoned he'd taken a 747-400 up to mach 1.05 from a guy that really does work at Boeing, and he asked around and no-one there has ever heard of him.

Whisky 17th Mar 2003 09:07

:D :D :D :D

Well 18-Wheeler, those guys always tell the "best" stories, don't they?
I'm sure you will ask him again next time when you fly with him? :E

Would like to see the look of his face........

witchdoctor 17th Mar 2003 09:33

Seeing as the old Blackbird has now been brought into the fray, thought some of you might find this little piece as funny as I did on the subject of groundspeed records - pretty obvious where it is going from the start, but hilarious none the less;

From Aircraft Illustrated March 2003 (I'm not an anorak really);

"In his book 'Sled Driver', SR-71 Blackbird pilot Brian Shul writes:

I'll always remember a certain radio exchange that occurred one day as Walt (his back-seater) and I were screaming across Southern California, 13 miles high. We were monitoring various radio transmissions from other aircraft as we entered Los Angeles airspace. Though they didn't really control us, they did monitor our movement across their scope. I heard a Cessna ask for a readout of its groundspeed.

'90 knots' Center replied.

Moments later, a Twin Beech required the same.

'120 knots' Center answered.

We weren't the only ones proud of our groundspeed that day. Almost instantly an F/A 18 smugly transmitted:

'Ah, Center, Dusty 52 requests groundspeed readout'.

There was a slight pause, then the response:

'525 knots on the ground, Dusty'.

Another silent pause. As I was thinking to myself how ripe a situation this was, I heard a familiar click of a radio transmission coming from my back-seater. It was at that precise moment I realised Walt and I had become a real crew, for we were both thinking in unison.

'Center, Aspen 20, you got a ground speed readout for us?'

There was a longer than normal pause:

'Aspen, I show 1742 knots'.

No further enquiries were heard on that frequency."


PS, NW1, get that ball in the centre!


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