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wiggy 11th Mar 2023 12:58


Originally Posted by Turbo Encabulator (Post 11397867)
Here's one. How come VNAV routinely starts down at TOD and suddenly decides that it's 2000 feet low on path and reverts to VNAV SPD? I"m like you're the one who calculated the TOD point :ugh:

I know VNAV has it's quirks but FWIW I had few thousand hours on the T7 and can't say I ever saw what you describe happen as a matter of routine.

Given old age I can only guess I'd be suspecting maybe winds (the point Uplinker made)/ or, and I'm clutching at straws here - programmed descent speed vs. programmed cruise speed - does it routinely happen if you transition from Econ cruise to Econ descent?

tdracer 11th Mar 2023 14:52


Originally Posted by eckhard (Post 11399449)
I think RR engines adjust fuel flow to keep the EPR constant, whether or not engine TAI is selected, hence no perf correction?

All FADEC engines (in "Normal" mode) adjust the fuel flow to keep the target N1 or EPR - Rolls is no way unique in the that regard. The EAI debit is to protect EGT margins.
However, since anti-ice is normally only used when it's cold - well below the rating corner point for the Takeoff rating range - not everyone bothers to take a performance debit for anti-ice for Takeoff. Max Climb/Max Con are a different issue.
Some models permit dispatch with an EAI valve locked open (which can happen when it's pretty warm), but that's typically handled via the MEL.

eckhard 11th Mar 2023 18:44

ok, thanks.

Turbo Encabulator 12th Mar 2023 00:59


Originally Posted by wiggy (Post 11399531)
I know VNAV has it's quirks but FWIW I had few thousand hours on the T7 and can't say I ever saw what you describe happen as a matter of routine.

Given old age I can only guess I'd be suspecting maybe winds (the point Uplinker made)/ or, and I'm clutching at straws here - programmed descent speed vs. programmed cruise speed - does it routinely happen if you transition from Econ cruise to Econ descent?

That's usually when I see it. Winds were my first thought as well, but I'm not sure that's it. "Routine" might be an exaggeration but it certainly hasn't been a one-off. I'll see it a couple of times on a given trip and then not see it for a couple of trips.

EY EVP 25th Mar 2023 19:33

B777 stab trim levers
 
What/when are manual stab trim levers on center pedestal for ? They are not mentioned in any non normal checklist. When to use ?

ScepticalOptomist 26th Mar 2023 21:30


Originally Posted by EY EVP (Post 11408805)
What/when are manual stab trim levers on center pedestal for ? They are not mentioned in any non normal checklist. When to use ?

If the dual switches on the yoke failed you would still be able to trim the aircraft.
I imagine not everything is in a checklist and some aspects of the operating the jet require the pilot to, well, be a pilot.

eckhard 27th Mar 2023 11:35

Don't know if this applies to the 777, but on the 787:

"If there is a complete loss of flight control signalling, direct wiring from the flight deck to the stabilizer and a spoiler pair allow pilot control of pitch using the alternate trim switches and roll using the control wheel."


DNEMtin 26th Dec 2023 09:42

Weird question, but still…
What is exact size of a small pitch rectangle on PFD (in degrees)?
In other words: What will be the pitch angle, if I just touch the 5 degree line with rectangle, then, if I keep inline the upper edge of the rectangle and the 5 degree pitch line?

punkalouver 26th Dec 2023 10:46


Originally Posted by EY EVP (Post 11408805)
What/when are manual stab trim levers on center pedestal for ? They are not mentioned in any non normal checklist. When to use ?


Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist (Post 11409395)
If the dual switches on the yoke failed you would still be able to trim the aircraft.

In other words, you can use them for normal ops(but not allowed when the autopilot is engaged). Try it in the sim sometime.

olster 26th Dec 2023 19:22

Vnav influenced by wind and temperature variation?


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