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EXDAC 9th Dec 2022 02:55


Originally Posted by oceancrosser (Post 11343650)
Then you were never subject to anything remotely British

Was the MRCA (Panavia Tornado) remotely British? If so, I claim to have been subject (as in participated in development). Doesn't change what I posted though.

Vessbot 9th Dec 2022 04:34


Originally Posted by ShyTorque (Post 11344331)
Not all of that is correct if you fly a helicopter!

Doesn't count :ok:

ShyTorque 9th Dec 2022 07:51


Originally Posted by Vessbot (Post 11344747)
Doesn't count :ok:

It does when the helicopter crew are winching you out of the “oggin” in the dead of night… ;)

golfbananajam 9th Dec 2022 09:11


Originally Posted by dixi188 (Post 11344558)
why are the mags on and the fuel pumps off?


Maybe you only need fuel pumps on initially, given it's high wing I would imagine gravity does most of the work. That's just a guess, I have no experience of twins, let alone one of these.

ShyTorque 9th Dec 2022 09:22


Originally Posted by meleagertoo (Post 11344605)
Clearly he was winding you up.

No sailor would ever misuse the word "abaft" to means moving in a sternwards didection. Never ever. 'Abaft' can only describe a relative position. "The helm is abaft the mainmast". The destroyer turned abaft the cruiser".
It cannot possibly be used as a direction of motion. That is described as 'astern'. A vessel - or a helo - can move astern, it can never move abaft unless it moves abaft relative to something else as the term expresses where it moved, not in what manner or direction.

He probably was, as per the rest. But seeing that it was almost forty years ago, I’m not going to be losing much sleep over it. ;)

inbalance 9th Dec 2022 10:07


Originally Posted by BANANASBANANAS (Post 11343609)

'Make sure you call the clock code correctly while inverted!'

Does that include to change the navlights from left to right and vice versa?

Vessbot 9th Dec 2022 15:48

Inverted, does "bank left" mean roll left, or point the lift vector to the left? :8

nickp 9th Dec 2022 16:34

How are B52 engines identified?

DaveReidUK 9th Dec 2022 17:24


Originally Posted by nickp (Post 11345059)
How are B52 engines identified?

They're the smoky things under the wings. :O

dixi188 9th Dec 2022 18:52


Originally Posted by nickp (Post 11345059)
How are B52 engines identified?

Quick search 1 thru 8.
How about the B36, 6 turning, 4 burning.

India Four Two 9th Dec 2022 20:58


Originally Posted by ShyTorque (Post 11344331)
Not all of that is correct if you fly a helicopter!

Unless you fly a Bell 47. ;)


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6fa00055da.jpg


NicolaJayne 9th Dec 2022 21:47

which is where the stage left / stage right used in the theatre comes from - an actor stood in the middle of the stage facing the audience , up stage and down stage is due to raked stages wheerhe the 'back' Upstage is higher that the front 'downstage' to give the audience a better view of the action

Union Jack 9th Dec 2022 22:59


Originally Posted by ShyTorque (Post 11343108)
During my RAF QHI course I was teamed up with a Royal Navy pilot.

When spot turning the helicopter I’d been trained to announce “TAIL GOING LEFT”, “TAIL GOING RIGHT” or “MOVING BACK” etc as required for the benefit of crew cooperation.

My RN colleague used to instead say stuff like “TURNING TO PORT”, “TURNING TO STARB’D” and “GOING ABAFT!”

I think he just did it to confuse me, but I did get used to it and sometimes imitated him with a pirate accent.

I'm virtually certain that your colleague will actually have said "GOING ASTERN". "Abaft" has a completely different usage and meaning , such as "abaft the beam", meaning a relative bearing further aft more than 90 degrees.



Originally Posted by Cat3508 (Post 11343991)
And an old maritime rule, Green to Green, Red to Red, in perfect safety go ahead

Equally old is "Red to Red and Green, perfect safety go between"!:uhoh:

Jack

MechEngr 9th Dec 2022 23:12


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 11345077)
They're the smoky things under the wings. :O

I thought that was disobedient ground crew.

ShyTorque 10th Dec 2022 07:20

Or certain Hughes 500s. But let’s face it, these days hardly anyone does! :p

​​​​​​​And what about tandem seated fixed wing aircraft?


DuncanDoenitz 10th Dec 2022 07:44


Originally Posted by ShyTorque (Post 11345320)
And what about tandem seated fixed wing aircraft?

From either the canopy configuration, inbuilt steps or appropriate GSE; Hawk, Tucano, Phantom, Tornado, Javelin etc; port side.

Koan 10th Dec 2022 12:20

The gauges on the Islander do look like something off a boat

Discorde 10th Dec 2022 12:29

There is a potential 'gotcha' with left/right identification on engines, as in:

'Looks like we'll have to shut it down.'
'Agreed. Make sure we get the right engine.'

Referring to '1' and '2' (on a twin, as used to be the case) would remove the problem.

Mogwi 10th Dec 2022 13:10

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c6b6d0002.jpeg
'Nuff said!

Mog

tdracer 10th Dec 2022 18:25


Originally Posted by dixi188 (Post 11345107)
How about the B36, 6 turning, 4 burning.

That's actually an interesting question. Since the early B-36s didn't have the jets, I'm guessing the prop engines were 1-6, and when the jets got added they were 7-8 on the left and 9-10 on the right.
But that's just an educated guess - does anyone know for sure?


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