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pappabagge 26th Nov 2020 16:05

Tool name for wire-locking wheel nuts (B737)
 
Possibly completely off the grid but back in the halcyon days of BA Out-Station Engineering when we had to wire-lock each individual wheel nut after the odd nosewheel change in the driving snow and -20C, what was the name and even part number of the very useful spinning hand-held tool used to speed the twining process prior to the seal being clamped into position?

Dan Dare 26th Nov 2020 16:11

You may be looking for locking-wire pliers such as these, but maybe Boeing had a special one.

https://www.heamar.co.uk/wire-twisti...151822569.html


https://www.heamar.co.uk/43605-thick...-plier-250.jpg

TURIN 26th Nov 2020 16:16

Yep as above, Wire Locking Pliers or Wire Twisters.

DaveReidUK 26th Nov 2020 17:04

Much quicker and neater than a hand job, so to speak.

Not just for wheel nuts, obviously.

Krystal n chips 26th Nov 2020 17:21


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10935253)
Much quicker and neater than a hand job, so to speak.

Not just for wheel nuts, obviously.

I have to politely disagree here. Long strands, ok, in part, yes, every other form, hand and pliers . Bit like marmite really....;)

NutLoose 26th Nov 2020 19:54

£147 for a set of Bahco ones... still using a set of them ex RAF Bahco and still going strong and in daily service 40 years on, springs gone and cutter jaws a bit knackered because some idiot tried to cut to thick a wire (me)

New Blue Point ( Snap On ) £50

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Snap-On-B...8AAOSwcSxfulzO

even cheaper US Pro tools £18.20

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/US-PRO-To...Cclp%3A2334524


TLDNMCL 26th Nov 2020 20:10

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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips (Post 10935263)
I have to politely disagree here. Long strands, ok, in part, yes, every other form, hand and pliers . Bit like marmite really....;)

Finding room for both hands in order to hand wrap often detemines the need for wrapping pliers or otherwise; I'm sure we have all had the skinned knuckles and accompanying fruity language. I think they are a great piece of thinking for a simple tool (not me, the pliers). 🤔

NutLoose 26th Nov 2020 20:14

Yup, aircraft engineering is like gynaecology, often peering up and working in small confined holes... it just on average smells better. ;)

you can get locking pliers in several sizes btw.

Hot 'n' High 26th Nov 2020 20:19


Originally Posted by TLDNMCL (Post 10935352)
................... I'm sure we have all had the skinned knuckles and accompanying fruity language. ..... 🤔

Yep! And seen grown men (and women!!!) scream in sheer frustration and anguish when they have spent ages, and ages, and ages ..... only to find they'd anti-locked the hardest of hard things to wire lock! I found investing time in figuring the correct direction while suspended, inverted, at full stretch round a most inconveniently placed bit of pointless Sooty ducting designed purely to frustrate access to said bolt or whatever was time well spent!

Ah, happy daze!!! :ok:

NutLoose 26th Nov 2020 20:23

Or you think just one more twist to tighten it and it snaps, or you twist it down and find its still loose as you had to many twists between the two items.

dixi188 26th Nov 2020 21:15


Originally Posted by Krystal n chips (Post 10935263)
I have to politely disagree here. Long strands, ok, in part, yes, every other form, hand and pliers . Bit like marmite really....;)

I'm with you KnC.
I have used then but didn't find them that useful in confined spaces.
I also used to have a piece of 3/16 rod with a file handle at one end and two 1/16 holes in the other end that was very useful for hard to reach places. I lent it to someone and it never came back.
Favourite job was BAe 146 NLG retract jack pin in the E&E bay, over the Football on the LH side. Those that know will know what I mean.

NutLoose 26th Nov 2020 23:47


Originally Posted by dixi188 (Post 10935389)
I'm with you KnC.
I have used then but didn't find them that useful in confined spaces.
I also used to have a piece of 3/16 rod with a file handle at one end and two 1/16 holes in the other end that was very useful for hard to reach places. I lent it to someone and it never came back.
Favourite job was BAe 146 NLG retract jack pin in the E&E bay, over the Football on the LH side. Those that know will know what I mean.

Dixi, they do those too, two different lengths included, see

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AIRCRAFT-...wAAOSwh9FZ1LAd

TLDNMCL 26th Nov 2020 23:48


Originally Posted by Hot 'n' High (Post 10935362)
Yep! And seen grown men (and women!!!) scream in sheer frustration and anguish when they have spent ages, and ages, and ages ..... only to find they'd anti-locked the hardest of hard things to wire lock! I found investing time in figuring the correct direction while suspended, inverted, at full stretch round a most inconveniently placed bit of pointless Sooty ducting designed purely to frustrate access to said bolt or whatever was time well spent!

Ah, happy daze!!! :ok:

😂 A road we have all been down; arm in a direction that nature never intended, neck at an obscure angle, whilst denying direct vision and using your eyes only once you thought you had finished, simply to confirm that it was time to snip and start again.

It shouldn't hsppen to a vet.

TLDNMCL 26th Nov 2020 23:58


Originally Posted by Hot 'n' High (Post 10935362)
Yep! And seen grown men (and women!!!) scream in sheer frustration and anguish when they have spent ages, and ages, and ages ..... only to find they'd anti-locked the hardest of hard things to wire lock! I found investing time in figuring the correct direction while suspended, inverted, at full stretch round a most inconveniently placed bit of pointless Sooty ducting designed purely to frustrate access to said bolt or whatever was time well spent!

Ah, happy daze!!! :ok:

H&H - did you ever rotate your forefinger back and fore before deciding where to start? I know I did. 😅

NutLoose 27th Nov 2020 00:05

Still do............

G-man 27th Nov 2020 01:50

Safety wire pliers, and yes many times I’ve found out the hard way that the nut would loosen if faster the easy way.

The Golden Rivet 27th Nov 2020 02:56


Originally Posted by G-man (Post 10935468)
Safety wire pliers, and yes many times I’ve found out the hard way that the nut would loosen if faster the easy way.

Amateurs 😆

https://www.crimptech.com.au/product.../safe-t-cable/

Hot 'n' High 27th Nov 2020 07:13


Originally Posted by The Golden Rivet (Post 10935479)

Well, that advert wasn't filmed up the top end of Zone 19 on a Tonka at 1 a.m! Lol! :E

papa_sierra 27th Nov 2020 11:01

Just looked on Nutloose's ebay site, nostalgia central. These look just the job, although we used to make our own from scrap. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AIRCRAFT-...UAAOSwdGJaui2B

NutLoose 27th Nov 2020 11:09


Originally Posted by papa_sierra (Post 10935686)
Just looked on Nutloose's ebay site, nostalgia central. These look just the job, although we used to make our own from scrap. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AIRCRAFT-...UAAOSwdGJaui2B

I have a set of those, the good thing it they are hard so the drill tends not to mark them.


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