Tool name for wire-locking wheel nuts (B737)
Possibly completely off the grid but back in the halcyon days of BA Out-Station Engineering when we had to wire-lock each individual wheel nut after the odd nosewheel change in the driving snow and -20C, what was the name and even part number of the very useful spinning hand-held tool used to speed the twining process prior to the seal being clamped into position?
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You may be looking for locking-wire pliers such as these, but maybe Boeing had a special one.
https://www.heamar.co.uk/wire-twisti...151822569.html https://www.heamar.co.uk/43605-thick...-plier-250.jpg |
Yep as above, Wire Locking Pliers or Wire Twisters.
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Much quicker and neater than a hand job, so to speak.
Not just for wheel nuts, obviously. |
Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 10935253)
Much quicker and neater than a hand job, so to speak.
Not just for wheel nuts, obviously. |
£147 for a set of Bahco ones... still using a set of them ex RAF Bahco and still going strong and in daily service 40 years on, springs gone and cutter jaws a bit knackered because some idiot tried to cut to thick a wire (me)
New Blue Point ( Snap On ) £50 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Snap-On-B...8AAOSwcSxfulzO even cheaper US Pro tools £18.20 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/US-PRO-To...Cclp%3A2334524 |
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips
(Post 10935263)
I have to politely disagree here. Long strands, ok, in part, yes, every other form, hand and pliers . Bit like marmite really....;)
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Yup, aircraft engineering is like gynaecology, often peering up and working in small confined holes... it just on average smells better. ;)
you can get locking pliers in several sizes btw. |
Originally Posted by TLDNMCL
(Post 10935352)
................... I'm sure we have all had the skinned knuckles and accompanying fruity language. ..... 🤔
Ah, happy daze!!! :ok: |
Or you think just one more twist to tighten it and it snaps, or you twist it down and find its still loose as you had to many twists between the two items.
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips
(Post 10935263)
I have to politely disagree here. Long strands, ok, in part, yes, every other form, hand and pliers . Bit like marmite really....;)
I have used then but didn't find them that useful in confined spaces. I also used to have a piece of 3/16 rod with a file handle at one end and two 1/16 holes in the other end that was very useful for hard to reach places. I lent it to someone and it never came back. Favourite job was BAe 146 NLG retract jack pin in the E&E bay, over the Football on the LH side. Those that know will know what I mean. |
Originally Posted by dixi188
(Post 10935389)
I'm with you KnC.
I have used then but didn't find them that useful in confined spaces. I also used to have a piece of 3/16 rod with a file handle at one end and two 1/16 holes in the other end that was very useful for hard to reach places. I lent it to someone and it never came back. Favourite job was BAe 146 NLG retract jack pin in the E&E bay, over the Football on the LH side. Those that know will know what I mean. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AIRCRAFT-...wAAOSwh9FZ1LAd |
Originally Posted by Hot 'n' High
(Post 10935362)
Yep! And seen grown men (and women!!!) scream in sheer frustration and anguish when they have spent ages, and ages, and ages ..... only to find they'd anti-locked the hardest of hard things to wire lock! I found investing time in figuring the correct direction while suspended, inverted, at full stretch round a most inconveniently placed bit of pointless Sooty ducting designed purely to frustrate access to said bolt or whatever was time well spent!
Ah, happy daze!!! :ok: It shouldn't hsppen to a vet. |
Originally Posted by Hot 'n' High
(Post 10935362)
Yep! And seen grown men (and women!!!) scream in sheer frustration and anguish when they have spent ages, and ages, and ages ..... only to find they'd anti-locked the hardest of hard things to wire lock! I found investing time in figuring the correct direction while suspended, inverted, at full stretch round a most inconveniently placed bit of pointless Sooty ducting designed purely to frustrate access to said bolt or whatever was time well spent!
Ah, happy daze!!! :ok: |
Still do............
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Safety wire pliers, and yes many times I’ve found out the hard way that the nut would loosen if faster the easy way.
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Originally Posted by G-man
(Post 10935468)
Safety wire pliers, and yes many times I’ve found out the hard way that the nut would loosen if faster the easy way.
https://www.crimptech.com.au/product.../safe-t-cable/ |
Originally Posted by The Golden Rivet
(Post 10935479)
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Just looked on Nutloose's ebay site, nostalgia central. These look just the job, although we used to make our own from scrap. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AIRCRAFT-...UAAOSwdGJaui2B
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Originally Posted by papa_sierra
(Post 10935686)
Just looked on Nutloose's ebay site, nostalgia central. These look just the job, although we used to make our own from scrap. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AIRCRAFT-...UAAOSwdGJaui2B
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Don't know if certified for aircraft use, but Frost auto supplies have wire twisting pliers. frost.co.uk
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Originally Posted by TLDNMCL
(Post 10935442)
H&H - did you ever rotate your forefinger back and fore before deciding where to start? I know I did. 😅
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 10935439)
Dixi, they do those too, two different lengths included, see
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AIRCRAFT-...wAAOSwh9FZ1LAd |
Originally Posted by Fourteenbore
(Post 10935821)
Don't know if certified for aircraft use, but Frost auto supplies have wire twisting pliers. frost.co.uk
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That’s what my licence gave me ;) certified fingers.
fourteenbore, most tooling is simply the same as one would use on a car, true there are specialised tools, but that is the same car wise. Professionals tend to buy better quality tools as they need them to last, better spend £20 on a spanner that’s will last a lifetime than 10 that won’t at £10. |
Don't forget the spanners that have to be 'reworked' to get in awkward spaces. You wouldn't want to use your expensive ones for that. Got quite a few with ground down ends and funny bends.
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I now deligate wire locking to those under the age of 45 who can actually see what they're doing...in the dark...rain fogging up the glasses that keep falling off, and who's fingers have not evolved into Cumberland sausages.
Righty tighty...Lefty loosy. |
Originally Posted by TURIN
(Post 10936255)
Righty tighty...Lefty loosy. Ttfn |
Originally Posted by TURIN
(Post 10936255)
I now deligate wire locking to those under the age of 45 who can actually see what they're doing...in the dark...rain fogging up the glasses that keep falling off, and who's fingers have not evolved into Cumberland sausages.
Righty tighty...Lefty loosy. Aaaaaaaaaaaaagh !!!!!!!!!!.....that term !!!!!......:{:{...what about on oxygen couplings then...hah ! ;) anyway, in my working life, I actually met not one but two people who would count the twists per inch and the length of the rats tail.....both were un related to each other as far as I know. |
Originally Posted by papa_sierra
(Post 10936254)
Don't forget the spanners that have to be 'reworked' to get in awkward spaces. You wouldn't want to use your expensive ones for that. Got quite a few with ground down ends and funny bends.
Shortly after I started racing I picked up lock-wire plyers at a local discount tool store (there were safety rules that dictated that certain parts - such as some brake components - needed to be lock wired or cotter keyed). They weren't exactly cheap, but still a small fraction of what Snap On would have cost. They worked just fine, and the first few times I used them in the pits some of the other drivers looked on in amazement - never having seen such a tool. As a result they were often loaned out, but amazingly I always got them back and in fact still have them. |
Originally Posted by Krystal n chips
(Post 10936441)
Aaaaaaaaaaaaagh !!!!!!!!!!.....that term !!!!!......:{:{...what about on oxygen couplings then...hah ! ;) anyway, in my working life, I actually met not one but two people who would count the twists per inch and the length of the rats tail.....both were un related to each other as far as I know.
As for twists per inch, I am that man and I claim my prize. ;) But we digress.... |
Safe-T-cable = Brilliant ! especially doing boroscope plugs on a CF6 or a V2500 downside of them was expense ( often in BA at LGW they were nil stock on the wire or the thimbles )
Most intricate wirelocking I remember was on the coal burners ( JT9 s) the throttle cable adjusters and the myriad bleed valves buried under the diaphragm ( seemed to be at least one for every day in the month ! ) |
Blink182 the throttle cable adjuster being a letter W to wire lock if I remember rightly!,
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