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safelife 4th Nov 2018 20:56

Antalya AIP, new taxiways
 
Does anyone have access to the Turkish AIP?
Antalya has put taxiways L1 and W into operation, but the charts do not show them yet.
Apparently they will be published beginning of December.

LookingForAJob 5th Nov 2018 06:23

https://www.dhmi.gov.tr/Sayfalar/default.aspx

You need to register but it looks free. But if the new info is not published it won't be in the AIP.

If you speak to them, maybe you could explain what AIRAC is.

safelife 5th Nov 2018 09:40

It’s not in the AIP yet. But aircraft taxi on these taxiways as I type.
Found L1 to be an extension of L southbound until apron 2.
Anyone have a clue where taxiway W would be? Lütfen?

Musket90 5th Nov 2018 18:15

Not good. They really shouldn't be used until the detail is published in AIP or Notamed otherwise how are pilots supposed to know where they are on the airfield without a valid chart. Poor safety management.

sierra_mike 5th Nov 2018 18:38

NOTAM A6033/18 is about that matter

safelife 6th Nov 2018 09:10

Yes there's a Notam but it doesn't describe where the taxiways are, nor does it give coordinates.
L1 is extending L southbound straight ahead until it hits apron 2, but still no clue where W would be.

Anvaldra 8th Nov 2018 08:08

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8f4e6a7b11.png
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....78f09fef81.png

safelife 8th Nov 2018 08:38

Teşekkürler.


poldek77 10th Nov 2018 17:40

So it will become effective next month!?!?!? :ugh:

safelife 11th Nov 2018 00:35

But they are in use since over a week!

FlightDetent 11th Nov 2018 18:20


A6033/18 NOTAMN
Q) LTAA/QMXCS/IV/M /A /000/999/3654N03048E005
A) LTAI B) 1811010001 C) 1812052100
E) ANTALYA AERODROME TWY L1 AND TWY W PUT INTO USE WITH THE FOLLOWING PROPERTIES:
TWY L1:WIDTH:45M STRENGTH:PCN 110/R/B/W/T SURFACE:CONCRETE
TWY W:WIDTH:30M STRENGTH:PCN 110/R/B/W/T SURFACE:CONCRETE

NOTE: TWY L1 AND TWY W POSITIONS ARE PUBLISHED IN AD 2 LTAI ADC AND AD 2 LTAI PRKG-B BY AIRAC AMDT NUMBERED 11/18 DATED 06 DEC 18.
CREATED: 26 Oct 2018 09:36:00
SOURCE: EUECYIYN
For some reason, they opened early. The relevant documents had been published and sent out well in time beforehand, so NOTAM is in place to warn pilots of the "unscheduled operation".

safelife: this should have been the charting provider's responsibility, not Anvaldras's - is that what you mean? Who do you use?

https://gis.icao.int/gallery/ONLINE_AIPs.html
https://www.eurocontrol.int/articles/ais-online

safelife 11th Nov 2018 20:49

Neither Lido nor Jeppesen had the taxiways on their charts.
And the Turkish AIP has published them only now for the next AIRAC cycle.
Yes there was a NOTAM, but it didn't give the location of the taxiways, just said they were there.
A safety investigation is being run in my outfit now over this.

Buck Cherry 2nd Jan 2019 11:11

W taxiway.
 

Originally Posted by safelife (Post 10308518)
Neither Lido nor Jeppesen had the taxiways on their charts.
And the Turkish AIP has published them only now for the next AIRAC cycle.
Yes there was a NOTAM, but it didn't give the location of the taxiways, just said they were there.
A safety investigation is being run in my outfit now over this.

I can tell you where is the W taxy way. it's between apron 2 and apron 3, west of ARFF building and EAST of TOWER. Note that now there's 2 taxiways that connects Apron 2 to 3.. One is Z now the other is W. W is on the EAST of Z. i hope that's clear.


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