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unmanned transport 21st May 2011 21:15

SQ A380 Returns To LHR
 
2345 20 May/'11

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Engine failure
Unable to dump fuel
Overweight landing
8 wheels on main/body gear replaced.

Capn Bloggs 22nd May 2011 07:25

Why'd it land in the water?

Green-dot 22nd May 2011 07:46

Why was it unable to dump fuel? Engine failure should not prevent dumping fuel, or was it more than an engine failure?

Emil Almestad 22nd May 2011 08:34

Just wondering why the only source I've found about this is Flightradar. No info on Avherald and in the mainstream media. Should be a quite big deal reporting about it considering the past.

unmanned transport 22nd May 2011 18:13

This one is very hush hush for some weird reason. Media ban implemented !
22 hrs delay.
The engine was changed.

parabellum 22nd May 2011 23:09

Talking to SQ crew yesterday the A380 has had more than it's fair share of turn backs after take off, for various reasons and this has earned it the nick name of "The 180".

A contained engine failure on a four engine aircraft is usually no 'big deal', being unable to dump fuel is.

Exactly who had the authority to issue a 'media ban'?

golfyankeesierra 23rd May 2011 06:57


"The 180"
LOL:)

BTW Very curious about the fueldump issue.

I know an urban legend of an early 'bus starting to dump fuel by itself when the pilots were fiddling the FMS with a simulated diversion. Since the aircraft was above MLW it decided to get rid of some weight....

Wonder if any of both stories is true...

Fargoo 23rd May 2011 07:10


This one is very hush hush for some weird reason. Media ban implemented !
22 hrs delay.
The engine was changed.
Where did they change the engine, it certainly wasn't done at Heathrow.

aterpster 23rd May 2011 08:20

The airplane is not building a lot of confidence.

Is it a 180 or an A180? :rolleyes: :D

scanhorse 23rd May 2011 13:07

SIA321 turn around LHR
 
Hi
whats all that about engine and coverup ???
Here is some facts :

Singapore A388 near Amsterdam on May 20th 2011, electrical problems
Incident: Singapore A388 near Amsterdam on May 20th 2011, electrical problems

http://www.pprune.org/spectators-bal...eturn-lhr.html

Best Regards


KBPsen 23rd May 2011 14:04

As it appears to be unmanned transport's mission in life to prove RR's triple spool engines, and apparently also the A380, an inferior product I would bring somewhat more than a pinch of salt when digesting any of his posts.

Anyhow, as the MLW and MZFW delta across all the weight variants of the A380 is between 20 and 25 tonnes and it is not possible to dump fuel from the engine feed tanks (which have a combined capacity of around 91 tonnes) it does not take a slide rule to figure out that the purpose of the jettison system is not to bring the weight down to MLW or below.

unmanned transport 23rd May 2011 16:26

The A380 is a good product, just has a few teething problems like the others that went before it.

Fargoo 23rd May 2011 19:35

Any news on that hush hush extremely rapid engine change?

oldchina 23rd May 2011 19:42

KBPsen
 
You and I must be the only ones here to know what is a slide rule.

It went the way of carbon paper. But it taught me so much.

atakacs 23rd May 2011 20:20

Be it engine or electrical related seems rather serious, especially in view on the overweight landing.

DozyWannabe 23rd May 2011 21:00

Not really... If the FCOM says you can do it, there's no reason why you shouldn't. As I've always understood it, electrical glitches are fairly common in the first couple of years of service...

aterpster 24th May 2011 01:20

oldchina:



You and I must be the only ones here to know what is a slide rule.

It went the way of carbon paper. But it taught me so much.
The slide rule was great but carbon paper sucked.

ventus2cxt 24th May 2011 01:32

For your info carbon paper is still widely used in India

vapilot2004 24th May 2011 02:55


As I've always understood it, electrical glitches are fairly common in the first couple of years of service...
In my experience, electrical glitches are more common in the last couple of years of service.

deSitter 24th May 2011 05:50

vapilot2204 said "In my experience, electrical glitches are more common in the last couple of years of service."

A sure sign of a rushed production line.

This incident does seem weirdly covered up. "The passengers were in no danger." Nonsense, they blew 8 tires on landing! That's danger!

-drl


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