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parabellum 12th Dec 2011 04:08

That sounds a lot like a near new B747-400 that rolled off the end of RW13 at Kai Tak, circa 1992ish?

barit1 12th Dec 2011 12:38


It's an insurrance carrier call and not an airline call.

It get's really dicy on older equipment where the fleet need would just as soon do without, or, spooked customers refuse to ride on a plane that was so unlucky.
More to the point -

It's the cost-to-repair versus the MARKET VALUE of the repaired aircraft. Since older aircraft, especially less desirable/less efficient models, don't command high prices, they are less likely to be repaired, and thus more likely to be salvaged.

(This is illustrated by the antique aircraft marketplace. A recently-pranged local P-40 will certainly be re-restored to better than new, whereas during WWII it would certainly be scrapped. The difference is the PRESENT MARKET VALUE of the ship.)

Broomstick Flier 12th Dec 2011 16:01

Kai Tak 747-400 was a write-off, well at least if you are thinking on the China Airlines one.

Perhaps you mind the Air France one at Papette or was it Reunion? (assymetric reverse during landing roll, if memory serves me rights)

glhcarl 12th Dec 2011 21:35


So why wouldn't they, repair some wire bundles, repair some damaged components, bolt on a few new engines, put in some temporary structural repairs in the wing and ferry the thing back to Airbus for full repair?
It isn't like it the airframe is broken in little pieces or burnt up.
The factory in Toulouse is set up to manfacture aircraft not repair them!

When your car is in a accident you don't take back to the factory for repair!

Airbus, like the other OEM's and MRO's have field teams that can handle the repair with parts supplied by the factory.

Machinbird 13th Dec 2011 01:42


Originally Posted by glhcarl
The factory in Toulouse is set up to manfacture aircraft not repair them!

When your car is in a accident you don't take back to the factory for repair!

Airbus, like the other OEM's and MRO's have field teams that can handle the repair with parts supplied by the factory.

My statement of a year ago was intended for those who were recommending making beer cans out of the poor tattered bird. However.....

I believe I've seen photos of airframes being repaired at Toulouse by means of major component replacement.

More than likely, it is the lower cost of labor driving a repair on site. As long as major structure can be properly aligned without using factory jigs, then the repair is possible on site. The engineers who designed the repair components probably spent some long nights making sure their repair concept was practical.
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