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King Chav 27th Jan 2009 07:58

Emirates A380 - Engine Change - EGLL
 
I hear the ugly bus needs a new engine at LHR.

The engines can't be tired already ?

CR2 27th Jan 2009 08:20

The engine will shortly be on its way from DXB, courtesy of a B747-400F :}

LambOfGod 27th Jan 2009 08:31

Boeing 747-400F, nice.

But, assuming the engines are the standard RR Trent 900's. Isn't Rolls Royce (or whoever the manufacturer is) to blame? Therefore the ironics of the 747 joke isn't very ironic:bored:

Sorry for being a smart ass...


But realy, whats wrong with the engine?:confused::confused::confused: Maybe it was in a test:}

Sunstar320 27th Jan 2009 08:37

Sounds expensive.

What are they worth each?

CR2 27th Jan 2009 08:50

Wasn't meant to be ironic; (well not very :O )
Just spent a few hours helping set the flight up :)
Should be in LHR around 2100Z.

Bolty McBolt 27th Jan 2009 08:57

Does anyone know the cause for the E/C..

QF just changed its first engine on the Dugong

LHR27C 27th Jan 2009 08:57


But, assuming the engines are the standard RR Trent 900's. Isn't Rolls Royce (or whoever the manufacturer is) to blame? Therefore the ironics of the 747 joke isn't very ironichttp://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/wbored.gif
Er, no, EK's A380s are powered by GP7200s.

ARINC 27th Jan 2009 09:01


Boeing 747-400F, nice.

But, assuming the engines are the standard RR Trent 900's. Isn't Rolls Royce (or whoever the manufacturer is) to blame? Therefore the ironics of the 747 joke isn't very ironic

Sorry for being a smart ass...


But realy, whats wrong with the engine? Maybe it was in a test
What on earth are you talking about ?

It could be any number of factors that require an engine change, Having actually changed several Trent 900's I can safely say none have been down to manufacturers issues.

Please keep uninformed speculation to a minimum

GP7200's are another matter.....

TURIN 27th Jan 2009 09:09


But, assuming the engines are the standard RR Trent 900's. Isn't Rolls Royce (or whoever the manufacturer is) to blame?
Why?

What has caused they engine to "fail".

Birdstrike or other FOD?

Operator error? :p

Incorrect maintenance? :hmm:

Y'all beat me to it.

CR2 27th Jan 2009 09:27

I does fit, just not in one piece... fan is removed.

Take a look at this link and scroll all the way to the bottom

Glasgow Prestwick Airport

RB Thruster 27th Jan 2009 11:01

:ok:The Trent 900 will fit into a 747 freighter, it was a prime design criteria. It is a tight fit using a special stand that "rolls" the engine on it's side so the engine can drop down lower in the stand.

:{However this does not apply to the Engine Alliance GP 700 series Emirates use on their A380s. The engine has to be shipped as a separate core, separate fan case and a set of fan blades, plus all the tooling to build up the engine at a remote site. The only other option is to charter an AN124 or similar outsize cargo aircraft to allow the engine to be shipped complete.

Same applies to the GE90 engine on 777-200LR and -300ER.

Cater 27th Jan 2009 11:15

EK engine change
 
Who is doing the the change BA I guess

Left Coaster 27th Jan 2009 11:28

They can fit...moved one down under a while back...anticipatory move for a company that flies more than 6 of the big ones

DILLIGAFF 27th Jan 2009 12:21

Emirates are sending a working party over to do the change. When I left this morning the plan was to do it in the cathedral if there was space, if not they will have to do it outside.
D

Cater 27th Jan 2009 13:14

EK e3ngine change
 
Hope the weather holds up for the guys from DXB its going to be bloody cold after what they are use too f

stickjoc 27th Jan 2009 13:22

Why can`t they 3 engine ferry it to TLS?.

False Capture 27th Jan 2009 13:25

Wouldn't it be easier to do a 3-engine ferry flight back to DXB?

Iceman2 27th Jan 2009 14:52

I'm not sure whether a 3-engine ferry is any easier, but I hear it is definitely on the cards!:confused:

Fosters 27th Jan 2009 15:51

Believe the Atlas 747F bringing in the engine is now confirmed as canx with 3 engine ferry out now the plan.

Fosters

aviatordom 27th Jan 2009 15:53

Does anybody know what happened to the engine?:eek:

xxgunnerxx 27th Jan 2009 15:56

I wonder if its gonna fly to DXB non-stop on 3 engines or stop somewhere? After all it still has to be light enough to climb on 2 engines.

Fargoo 27th Jan 2009 17:07


Emirates are sending a working party over to do the change. When I left this morning the plan was to do it in the cathedral if there was space, if not they will have to do it outside.
No room in the Cathedral , already 3 third party aircraft in there. Not big enough to swallow an A380 yet anyway unless you leave the doors open :ok:

CR2 27th Jan 2009 22:33

747F flight has been put back 24H at Emirates request. Strange that.

edit: Looks like its canceled; 3 engine ferry to DXB?

LambOfGod 28th Jan 2009 09:23

What the hell am I talking about? Well...

"I hear the ugly bus needs a new engine at LHR.
The engines can't be tired already ?
"

Well, using a word like 'ugly' to somewhat prefix the 'Bus I assumed the member wasn't too much of an Airbus fan. So a post saying it was being transported on a 747 would saposedly be ironic.

Plus, all I here about is the bloody Trent 900, is there any other kind? Well now I know, I thought Airbus were different and didn't offer options.


But whats wrong with it?:confused::\:bored::eek::8

oz in dxb 28th Jan 2009 09:53

I heard that during engine start that the engine dumped all of its oil.

Told by the engineer in CDG

subsonic69 28th Jan 2009 10:09

haha
 
well... I guess the engine acquired the french taste of things while in France and wants wine instead.. haha

but any more info ?? is it a blowout of seals,packings or gaskets ?? since they can easily replace the oil tank if it happens to be the oil tank .

im puzzled.

Geezers of Nazareth 28th Jan 2009 17:10

Well, all that I can add is that the aircraft concerned was A6-EDD, and it has now left Heathrow.

It taxied past me this morning at about 11am, heading for the departure runway. I was led to believe that this was a 'positioning' flight to Toulouse.

Today's EK001/EK002 flight (normally an A.380) was a Boeing 777-300.

Fatfish 29th Jan 2009 14:37

So was it a 3 engine ferry flight??

Leezyjet 29th Jan 2009 19:12

GoN,

According to the SIS, it departed as EK002D and destination was shown as DXB.

:)

alexmcfire 29th Jan 2009 19:25

So would Airbus support engine changes with the Beluga, if availble?
Will the B748F be able to carry a GP7200 or GE90 in one piece?

SMOC 30th Jan 2009 04:11

The GE90 has two be shipped in two parts the fan and propulsor, GE advertise the fact that the propulsor is usually the only part that needs to be shipped and you can actually buy spare propulsors instead of entire engines. I've done freight (747) trips carrying just GE90 propulsors and also full Trent 800s, from the Rolls Royce website the T900 is the only engine on the A380 that can be transported whole in a Boeing 747F (SCD-120"x134") The 777F has the same height SCD 120" however it's width is greater than the 747F.

The GE90 Theatre

alexmcfire 30th Jan 2009 06:57

Thanks for the info, any time difference between replacing only parts or the whole GE90? More equipment needed to replace the whole engine?

NJRoadmap 31st Jan 2009 03:00

Status update
 
Is there any more info on the status of A6-EDD? I'm due to fly on 2nd February from DXB to LHR on EK001. When do EK aim to have it back in service?

I'm surprised that the GP7200's been playing up - EA were really confident that it was the better engine for the A380.

HeathrowAirport 31st Jan 2009 10:41

A6-EDD Just landed 09R as UAE1

Thats fix was quick :)

gas path 31st Jan 2009 11:42

Thread drift I know...but!
GE90 and RR Trent 800 we ship complete powerplant assemblies when it comes to an off base (overseas) engine change. It's simpler and quicker!
The only aircraft that can ship them intact is the AN 124 Ruslan and they are both a tight fit height wise! A credit to the winch operators.:8

HAWK21M 3rd Feb 2009 18:48

What prompted this Engine replacement?
regds
MEL...

SierraOneFoxtrot 5th Feb 2009 23:45

A6-EDD performed the inaugural DXB-SYD-AKL flight departing DXB on 01 Feb 2009 arriving AKL Mon 02 Feb.

Pictures at Airbus A380 last word in luxury, travellers say - National - NZ Herald News

Second flight to DXB-SYD-AKL on Wed 04 Feb (arriviing AKL Thu 05 Feb) performed by A6-EDB arrived four hours late, having left DXB several hours late :uhoh:

mjabbasi 13th Feb 2009 22:04

From what I heard through a friend of mine who works at LHR, the EK A380 engine in question had broken fan blades and was leaking oil when it arrived there from DXB and ended up being ferried back to DXB on 3 engines.

galaxy flyer 14th Feb 2009 02:17


The only aircraft that can ship them intact is the AN 124 Ruslan and they are both a tight fit height wise!
Not entirely true, it would be an easy load in the C-5, but the Economy Act prohibits it. :ugh:

GF

Short_Circuit 15th Feb 2009 03:58

What would Airbus do without the Boeing 747 :p


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