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ATPMBA 20th Aug 2008 13:54

Some dumb questions
 
1) What exactly is a B737NG, is it an EFIS glass cockpit setup? Is it the -700, -800 models?

2) I was looking at some technical system docs for A320, I like the redundancy/backups for the FBW. Is this whole aircraft more complex than the Apollo space capsule? 250 hour pilots can get type rated in it, can they learn all the systems for the check-ride?

Rainboe 20th Aug 2008 14:35

The B737NG is the latest version of the B737 with advanced glass cockpit similar, but not as complex as the B747-400. It is versions -600 to -900.

The Apollo capsule was a 1968 moon orbit machine, with about as much computing power as a toaster. The Airbus is many large computers riveted together. They are different things. You need to do a 14 day course to understand the systems to be able to operate it effectively (after many simulator sessions). Boeing pilots say even that is not enough.

fc101 20th Aug 2008 14:55

People are often surprised by how little computing power there was (and is) in some space craft.

The shuttle used to use Z80 processors (think your first computer from the 1980s those who are that old) for a few reasons: reliable, almost indestructable, all bugs known, resiliant to cosmic rays etc etc - and you don't nee that much power to make flight trajectory calculations (sliderulers anyone?)

It takes more computing resources to draw the displays than to compute the trajectory of the aircraft

fc101

dixi188 20th Aug 2008 15:05

ATPMBA.

737NG means "Boeing 737 New Generation"
Old generation means -100 to -500 series.
New generation means -600 to -900 series.

NG has a completely revised wing (many with winglets on the tips),advanced electronic flight instrumentation, and improvements in many other systems.

Hope this helps.

danishdynamite 21st Aug 2008 23:17

NG stands for Next Generation

john_tullamarine 21st Aug 2008 23:35

Some dumb questions

If I may be permitted to push the Tech Log party line again ... there are NO dumb questions ... but, sometimes people are dumb and fail to ask the questions to which they need the answer ...

Flightless Falcon 22nd Aug 2008 13:52

i agreaa wit John Tullomarine

No question is a stupid question if they dont know the answer.....

ATPMBA 22nd Aug 2008 15:23

NG
 
NG - Next Generation???

Boeing has bad marketing, most follks think NG stands for NO GOOD.

kijangnim 22nd Aug 2008 15:27

Greetings,

NGs, Are they not FBW as opposed to the other models?:O

mutt 23rd Aug 2008 05:56

Sorry JT, but i disagree..... this is the dumbest question that i have ever read on Pprune.....

http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/34012...t-manuals.html


Mutt

john_tullamarine 23rd Aug 2008 08:59

Mutt ... with my pilot hat on ... I would tend to agree .. but, with a teaching hat ... perhaps it is just an opportunity ?

klog 23rd Aug 2008 10:59

The shuttle used to use Z80 processors
 
fc101

The shuttle used to use Z80 processors (think your first computer from the 1980s those who are that old) for a few reasons: reliable, almost indestructable, all bugs known, resiliant to cosmic rays etc etc - and you don't nee that much power to make flight trajectory calculations (sliderulers anyone?)
No - it used IBM AP-101 cpus (as also used in B52s). Shuttle procurement was complete in the early 70s, and Zilog only announced the Z80 in '76, I think.
Not that a Z80 would have been considered in any case.

Good myth, though!

klog (IBMer)


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