Qantas Link 717 hard landing Darwin
Heard thru the grapevine a Qantas Link 717 had a hard landing in Darwin last night.
So hard it may be a rightoff!! maybe bent mainspar and engine mounts damaged, u/c mounts damaged. The landing pilot had a history of hard landings , this time she may have totaled the A/C!!! |
Please excuse these colonials: they can't even spell. It's "writeoff", Bloggs! :=
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Must a lie perpetrated by third world pilots. Qantas pilots, true blue fair dinkums totalling tin...what sacrilege!!! Wash your mouth and cleanse your sick mind pronto!:=:=:=
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Well, right off it may be a writeoff.:)
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Hope it gets posted on You Tube! :p
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Yes it happened.
Here is the story so far. No one was injured in the crash, but there was substantial damage to the Boeing 717. The ATSB's safety investigation report says the passenger jet hit an area of high sink just before landing causing it to drop quickly. It hit the runway so hard that the aircraft's fuselage wrinkled. The Boeing 717 had flown from Nhulunbuy and was carrying 84 passengers |
jeeez guys - we're all slipping. Almost 24 hours later and not a single pix or video grab!
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what about the bits that were leftoff?
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jeeez guys - we're all slipping. Almost 24 hours later and not a single pix or video grab! http://video.aol.com/video-detail/mc...ing/3243417730 (actually footage of a Maddog test flight. I think the test pilot forgot that he was in an MD-80, not his F-4! Same company, wrong jet...) |
Sorry - don't know the url - I just get daily emails from a news service that sometimes includes aviation-related articles:
Qantas Boeing 'wrinkled' in hard landing in Darwin Ben Sandilands writes: Qantas is in damage control this morning trying to hide a Qantaslink Boeing 717 that was so severely damaged in a hard landing at Darwin last Thursday that it may be a write-off. No reports, no photos, no survivor interviews, indeed no recognition of any sort has appeared in the media for almost four days. No-one was injured in the "incident" that dared not show its face until an inquiry into it was officially listed on the air safety data base today. The Australian Transport Safety Bureau says it is investigating the incident which happened in a jet configured with 115 seats and flown by National Jet under contract to Qantas. The air safety investigator says on its website that "On final approach the aircraft entered an area of high sink and made a heavy landing. Wrinkling was later found in the aft fuselage. Damage: Substantial". There were 11 Boeing 717s in the Qantaslink fleet. |
Capn Bloggs:
Now that was NOT a soft landing, methinks! |
That clip is at least two years old.
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Me thinks it is from the original certification of the MD-80 or even older the DC-9. I've seen this before, maybe from my first DC-9 training in the mid 80's.
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As it says in the caption this video is from 1983 and its at Edwards AFB
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There are a huge number of landing-related accidents in that report.
Looks like QFs first write-off has finally occured! |
Looks like QFs first write-off has finally occured! a little reminder (the 744 @ BKK did in fact fly again): http://aviation-safety.net/database/...e.php?var=4842 and thats by far not all. QF lost lots of flying boats in the 40s, some of them including fatalities. maybe someone is coming up with more detailed facts.. |
Yes it may have the rat on the tail...but its actually QANTAS LINK, operated by NATIONAL JET. So not a QANTAS write off, rather a National Jet write off, much to the disappointment of some here so it appears.
Not quite sure any of you seem so happy at the prospect of any airline writing a plane off, but such is life, there are always bottom feeders. |
Just wondering: since QF 707s entered service in 1959, have there been ANY write-offs of Australian commercial jet aircraft? I know TAA lost a Viscount and Ansett lost one or two aircraft, but not jets; if this aircraft is confirmed as a write-off, would this be the first - of any Australian airline.
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Qantas fatalities
Qantas had several fatal crashes during WWII. Out of their control of course, at least two Qantas flying boats were shot down by Japanese fighters during the fall of Singapore, with multiple casualties, and at least one dissapeared without trace.
http://www.qantas.com.au/info/about/history/details10 |
new ltd report
http://www.news.com.au/travel/story/...009000,00.html
Qantas safety record under threat By Steve Creedy February 12, 2008 05:53am QANTAS'S jealously guarded reputation for never having lost a jet aircraft is under threat following an accident involving a Boeing 717. The Qantaslink jet carrying 84 passengers from Nhulunbuy, in Arnhem Land, was substantially damaged when it landed heavily after a sudden loss of altitude as it came into land in Darwin last Thursday. The heavy landing produced wrinkling in the aircraft's skin at the rear of the fuselage, suggesting possible damage to the airframe and prompting speculation that the plane is a write-off. Although the leased aircraft was operated for Qantaslink by National Jet Systems, a write-off would be the first under Qantas colours. The Australian Transport Safety Bureau, which is investigating, yesterday described the damage to the aircraft as "substantial". An ATSB spokesman was unable to say last night whether the aircraft could be repaired. "There have been engineers called to inspect the aircraft, but whether it's a write-off or whether it's reparable I don't think is known," he said. Qantaslink issued a short statement confirming the Boeing 717 operating from Cairns via Nhulunbuy to Darwin was involved in a heavy landing. It said there were no injuries, and passengers disembarked normally. "The incident is being investigated in consultation with Boeing (and) National Jet Systems, which operates the aircraft on behalf of Qantaslink," Qantas group general manager regional airlines Narendra Kumar said. "As required, the incident has been reported to the Civil Aviation Safety Authority and the ATSB." Asked whether the aircraft would be written off, a spokeswoman said: "The investigation is under way and we've got to await the outcome." The airline has an enviable reputation for air safety. A move to repair a Boeing 747-400, which ran off a runway in Bangkok in 1999 costing about $100m, was widely seen as a move to protect that record. |
Northern Territory News Darwin has it written off
http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/200...33_ntnews.html
Qantas jet written off after NT landing PHOEBE STEWART 12Feb08 A $35MILLION Qantas jet is believed tohave been written off after a "heavy landing" in Darwin. The Boeing 717 jet bumped down at Darwin airport on February 7 after flying from Cairns via Nhulunbuy. None of the 84 passengers were hurt and they were able to "disembark normally" from the plane, the airline said yesterday. A report said the Australian Transport Safety Bureau had listed the incident on its air safety database and had described damage to the plane as "substantial". It said the Bureau reported the plane entered an area of "high sink", forcing it to land heavily, "wrinkling" the aircraft's fuselage. But spokesman Geoge Nadal denied the information had come from the Bureau. He confirmed that the heavy landing had been reported and was under investigation. An air safety expert is due to arrive in Darwin soon. Mr Nadal said the outcome of the investigation would depend on the "complexity" ofthe incident. Qantas said it could not comment on whether the plane had been written off but said the aircraft was out of action. Qantaslink general manager of regional airlines Narendra Kumar said the flight - operating as QF1944 from Cairns - was being investigated in consultation with Boeing and National Jets Systems, which operated the aircraft on behalf of Qantaslink. He said the incident had been reported to air safety authorities. The QantasLink jet is one of 11 in the Territory's fleet of 717s, operated by NationalJet Systems. |
Qantas is in damage control this morning trying to hide a Qantaslink Boeing 717 that was so severely damaged in a hard landing at Darwin last Thursday that it may be a write-off. No reports, no photos, no survivor interviews, indeed no recognition of any sort has appeared in the media for almost four days. |
She's no worse than the blokes!
I am regular SLF on that flight, in that aircraft (I work at Nhulunbuy...)
All the QantasLink drivers throw it at the ground. Those of us in the back are surprised any time we walk away with fillings still in our teeth. Chances are the guys aboard in Darwin didn't notice anything unusual. Believe me, the girl is no worse than any of the boys on that run. Some of us call the flight a "throw-down". A Throw-Down is either a very ancient Australian fire-cracker -- you throw it on the ground and it explodes, or a very small Australian beer bottle -- you throw a few down then you explode. Or a QantasLink B717 :-) I've been meaning to ask on this forum for some time: "Why" do the QF drivers all throw it at the ground? We have the smoothest flying conditions in the world, yet every one ends with an almighty thump! SQ drivers don't do it, BA drivers don't do it, Thai doesn't do it, Gulf Air, Air NZ, Air China, China Southern... Why does only the Flying Kangaroo whack its a**e on the ground like that? It has gotta be a SOP, it happens too often to be chance. Enquiring minds... |
If it hits the fan they may well be able to hide behind the contractural arrangements as to who crews the aircraft, but for the record, QantasLink is 100% owned by Qantas. Additionally, QantasLink aircraft are owned or leased via Qantas, or Qantas-owned leasing companies.
In any event, an isolated heavy landing by a single aircraft will not hurt them. |
MD-80 hard landing.
The video clip was taken during minimum landing distance parameters at Edwards AFB. I seem to recall that an FAA pilot was PIC at the time. The main L/Gs bottomed out but didn't even break any seals and no damage to the wing structure. The tail was replaced and the aircraft rejoined the test program. The only crew injury was to someone standing in the doorway behind the pilots; he broke his ankles.
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Must have been very expensive, for I have seen a clearer video of this that also shows the front fuselage breaking about 20 feet aft of the cockpit. It was extremely bent. Very surprised it was repaired. Standing up on a risky landing. STRANGE!
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Qantas had a couple of serious incidents on 707s in the sixties. One that I witnessed at Paya Lebar, was a 707 landing hard on 02 and subsequently going around, barely missing the coconut trees at the end of 02. Apparently the landing was carried out by the PF under training in the right hand seat. RW02 had a dip at the approach end, the aircraft hit the runway nosewheel first, displacing the nosegear rearwards and thereby splitting the fuselage in the L41 area. A repair team flew out from Sydney and they patched up the aircraft for an unpressurised ferry flight back to Sydney. Luckily, there were no injuries to pax or crew. The other incident was on a 707 night flight, eastbound over India when the Capt's AH toppled. Capt. disconnected the A/P and followed the toppling AH. Aircraft went into steep left bank before recovery. As far as I remember, neither incident was publicised at the time.
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Ah! yes...Qantas...the worlds safest airline after the Dutch mob!!
Yeah!...in your dreams!! |
Mods
Historic stuff on here but the real story is on D & G. Can you pull them together or scrub this one and move the other over here? |
Qantas jet written off after NT landing PHOEBE STEWART 12Feb08 A $35 MILLION Qantas jet is believed to have been written off after a "heavy landing" in Darwin. |
Capn Bloggs, for what it's worth, you made me laugh!
(One or two people do appear quite short in the humour detection department.) |
John,
Capn Bloggs, for what it's worth, you made me laugh! |
The Qantaslink jet carrying 84 passengers from Nhulunbuy, in Arnhem Land... |
Was that 'sorry' approved by everyman and his dog?:}
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Well they can't be trying too hard to hide it, 'twas parked on the ramp this afternoon. Whilst I don't pretend to have any engineering background, a walk around the machine revealed far less damage than I had envisaged, given the speculation on this and other threads.
Speculation I understand. But I don't understand such negative speculation, almost hoping for a writeoff. |
All the QantasLink drivers throw it at the ground |
The landing pilot had a history of hard landings , this time she may have totaled the A/C!!! Typical antipodean c:mad:p. and an interesting contrast to the BA incident :sad: ps Like the vid link. pps Don't mistake the moniker for the gender := |
Typical antipodean c:mad:p I have no doubt that a lot of cr"p happens at the antipodes of Australia too. :} |
amos2
You referring to GoodAndReliableUnderDutchAdministration?
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