Quiz - What was the Worlds fastest subsonic airliner?
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It was the Convair 990, Coronado last used by Spantax, although NASA did have one for a while. Can be told apart from the Convair 880 by the big lumps on the trailing edge.
The Trident was also very quick but the Comet was only a .72/.75 airplane
The Trident was also very quick but the Comet was only a .72/.75 airplane
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The Trident 1 had a M.88 cruise with a Vmo of 385 We used to demonstrate them during Base Flying to M.93 as required by the 1179 form. I have seen them at M.97 with no mach buffet until some G pulled and then only very slight. I remember a time when we were hasseled by a pair of Spanish F86s after departing from Gibralter and managed to pull away from them at m.9+
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What was the burn rate of a Trident 1 at M.93? Could it sustain a cruise at M.93 for any length of time, or was that only in a descent?
Would make a pretty quick short range transport toy for a rich businessman these days, perhaps? Especially with modern engines?
Would make a pretty quick short range transport toy for a rich businessman these days, perhaps? Especially with modern engines?
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I don't know which airline wrecker flew with, nor which mark of Trident, although the reference to Gibraltar suggests it may have been BEA.
If it was BEA, talk of a M0.88 cruise and a Vmo of 385 kts for a Trident 1 is somewhat over the top!
For the record all the Tridents in BEA/BA had an Mmo of M0.87, with the Tridents 1 & 2 having a Vmo of 365 kts (300 kts for a Trident 2 with fuel in the fin tank) and the Trident 3 having a Vmo of 350 kts.
M0.93 may have been demonstrated at base, but was way above the normal cruise mach number.
I don't know which airline wrecker flew with, nor which mark of Trident, although the reference to Gibraltar suggests it may have been BEA.
If it was BEA, talk of a M0.88 cruise and a Vmo of 385 kts for a Trident 1 is somewhat over the top!
For the record all the Tridents in BEA/BA had an Mmo of M0.87, with the Tridents 1 & 2 having a Vmo of 365 kts (300 kts for a Trident 2 with fuel in the fin tank) and the Trident 3 having a Vmo of 350 kts.
M0.93 may have been demonstrated at base, but was way above the normal cruise mach number.
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Thanks - I did wonder as I thought that those IMN figures seemed on the high side! Until the Fun Detectors stopped us, we used to cruise the Vickers Funbus at M0.88 indicated; however, I still have to take her over M0.92 on air tests. A little buffet sets in at that speed, but otherwise the old lady handles it without any drama!
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you do look georgeous in your Spantax trousers.
The Trident was also very quick but the Comet was only a .72/.75 airplane.
I did have the pleasure of a Spantax CV990 but can honestly say that the clouds did not seem to be going backwards any faster.
you do look georgeous in your Spantax trousers.
The Trident was also very quick but the Comet was only a .72/.75 airplane.
I did have the pleasure of a Spantax CV990 but can honestly say that the clouds did not seem to be going backwards any faster.
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It was the Convair 990 Coronado last flown by Spantax and NASA had one for a while. It could be separated from the 880 by the big fairings on the wing trailing edge.
The Trident was also fast but the Comet was only a .72/.75 airplane. Ah, De-Havilland!!
The Trident was also fast but the Comet was only a .72/.75 airplane. Ah, De-Havilland!!
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Understand that the last flying CV-990 was used by the US Navy as a trials a/c, and at least one piccie exists of it with an AAR pod fitted -- believe that it was flying into the 1990s. Does anyone have anymore information?
Tobbes
(Oh and the Comet might have been a .72/.75 aeroplane. : ) !)
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Tobbes
(Oh and the Comet might have been a .72/.75 aeroplane. : ) !)
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