Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Flight Deck Forums > Tech Log
Reload this Page >

Use of Alt Air?

Wikiposts
Search
Tech Log The very best in practical technical discussion on the web

Use of Alt Air?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 4th Sep 2001, 08:25
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Dirka-dirka-stan
Posts: 238
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Question Use of Alt Air?

Hi all

Just wondering about the use of alternate air on light twins?

How and when should you use them?

Ice conditions? Dust condition? T/O & Ldging?

Give it to me
kavu is offline  
Old 4th Sep 2001, 10:32
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Dunnunda & Godzone
Age: 74
Posts: 4,275
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

kavu

This thread's off to Tech Log, a more appropriate forum.

Cheers,
Woomera is offline  
Old 5th Sep 2001, 07:07
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 1998
Location: Ex-pat Aussie in the UK
Posts: 5,799
Received 121 Likes on 58 Posts
Post

Alternate air is provided on fuel injected piston engines as just that - an alternate air source.

When the normal, filtered, air intake isn't doing it's job, you can switch to alternate air, which provides an unfiltered source of air (usually from inside the cowl).

If impact ice has iced up your air filter and you can't get manifold pressure - go to alternate.

If a swarm of locusts have blocked your filter - going to alternate will give your engine air (and probably few locusts.) etc.

You would never use it in dusty conditions - that is what an air filter is for! Barring an emergency, of course.
Checkboard is offline  
Old 5th Sep 2001, 09:28
  #4 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Dirka-dirka-stan
Posts: 238
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

So checkboard

would you then use the alt air during icing conditions if there was no pressure drop on the MP?

when testing alt air on ground what sort of drop would you notice on the daily run ups?

just curious as well as interested. many people i have seen and watched use it in many different ways. ie use it like the pitot heat.

cheers
kavu is offline  
Old 6th Sep 2001, 11:29
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 1998
Location: Ex-pat Aussie in the UK
Posts: 5,799
Received 121 Likes on 58 Posts
Post

That depends upon how you use pitot heat. Presumably you turn it on is visible moisture at or below 0°C, but you may turn it on at any time in cloud, or leave it on throughout the flight.

If there is no drop in manifold pressure, there is no need for alternate air. Carburettor heat is used as an anti-ice feature during decents, in order to prevent mainly fuel icing. (Fuel ice forms downstream from the point where fuel is introduced in the induction system. The temperature drop due to the vapourization of the fuel can condense moisture from even clear air, then allow that water to freeze in the induction system.) This is unecessary in fuel injected engines, although fuel injected engines may still suffer from throttle ice at temperatures below 2°C, if the throttle hasn't been located in a warm position within the cowl.

Fuel injected engines (which are fitted with alternate air) may suffer from impact ice - formed by cold water droplets hitting a surface cooled below 0°C. You need visible moisture (i.e. cloud) for this to occur, and ice builds up on components like the air scoop. It is noticeable by a drop in manifold pressure - but as the alternate air source will be unaffected, then changing to alt air will fix the problem. Unlike Carb. heat (where you are trying to prevent ice) there is no need to have it operating before the problem occurs as you are circumventing the problem. Indeed, operating alt air all the time in cloud may hide a development of ice that you really want to know about. I wouldn't use it unless I had to.

During a ground test there should be virtually no drop in MP.

[ 07 September 2001: Message edited by: Checkboard ]
Checkboard is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.