Groundspeed Records
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From: Deep South
Once had 417 GS in a BE20 from UTTT to UBBB at F280, picked up the jetstream that happened to be going my way, desent was interesting, power off, nose down VSI off clock and controler even asked if i could reduce GS.... 
UBBB was interesting, passing 1500m encountered the worse turbulance, windshear and icing I ever had. wind went from aprox 280 to 020 in about 1000 ft, ILS to minima and wind on landing around 60kts gusting 70 straight off the caspian sea, made one of the shortest landings ever in a kingair... As for the way home, well what you win on one you lose on the other....
UBBB was interesting, passing 1500m encountered the worse turbulance, windshear and icing I ever had. wind went from aprox 280 to 020 in about 1000 ft, ILS to minima and wind on landing around 60kts gusting 70 straight off the caspian sea, made one of the shortest landings ever in a kingair... As for the way home, well what you win on one you lose on the other....
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From: Gold Coast
I flew with a guy yesterday that blows us all away - He's an ex-Boeing test pilot, and has flown a 747-400 to Mach 1.05 in a dive.
I don't know what the groundspeed was, but it was no doubt pretty high ....
I don't know what the groundspeed was, but it was no doubt pretty high ....
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From: Dubai - sand land.
A little over 500 kts at FL 250 in an ATR72 from Cork to Gatwick (that's eastbound for those of you unfamiliar with europe), I'd have to dig an old logbook out to confirm the actual speed but London ATCC kept asking us to confirm our aircraft type
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From: SEA
Any military guys care to comment? Like SR-71 drivers. Or are those numbers still classified? In any case, 1184kt GS looks pretty fast to most of us.
Once a while, I get to see a Concorde T/O in Paris. What can I say, she stands way above every other cilvilian airliner.
Once a while, I get to see a Concorde T/O in Paris. What can I say, she stands way above every other cilvilian airliner.
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From: Gold Coast
I've got a copy of that flight manual, BIK_116.80, and it seems to be pretty authentic indeed.
BTW, I checked up on that guy that reckoned he'd taken a 747-400 up to mach 1.05 from a guy that really does work at Boeing, and he asked around and no-one there has ever heard of him.
BTW, I checked up on that guy that reckoned he'd taken a 747-400 up to mach 1.05 from a guy that really does work at Boeing, and he asked around and no-one there has ever heard of him.
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From: UK
Seeing as the old Blackbird has now been brought into the fray, thought some of you might find this little piece as funny as I did on the subject of groundspeed records - pretty obvious where it is going from the start, but hilarious none the less;
From Aircraft Illustrated March 2003 (I'm not an anorak really);
"In his book 'Sled Driver', SR-71 Blackbird pilot Brian Shul writes:
I'll always remember a certain radio exchange that occurred one day as Walt (his back-seater) and I were screaming across Southern California, 13 miles high. We were monitoring various radio transmissions from other aircraft as we entered Los Angeles airspace. Though they didn't really control us, they did monitor our movement across their scope. I heard a Cessna ask for a readout of its groundspeed.
'90 knots' Center replied.
Moments later, a Twin Beech required the same.
'120 knots' Center answered.
We weren't the only ones proud of our groundspeed that day. Almost instantly an F/A 18 smugly transmitted:
'Ah, Center, Dusty 52 requests groundspeed readout'.
There was a slight pause, then the response:
'525 knots on the ground, Dusty'.
Another silent pause. As I was thinking to myself how ripe a situation this was, I heard a familiar click of a radio transmission coming from my back-seater. It was at that precise moment I realised Walt and I had become a real crew, for we were both thinking in unison.
'Center, Aspen 20, you got a ground speed readout for us?'
There was a longer than normal pause:
'Aspen, I show 1742 knots'.
No further enquiries were heard on that frequency."
PS, NW1, get that ball in the centre!
From Aircraft Illustrated March 2003 (I'm not an anorak really);
"In his book 'Sled Driver', SR-71 Blackbird pilot Brian Shul writes:
I'll always remember a certain radio exchange that occurred one day as Walt (his back-seater) and I were screaming across Southern California, 13 miles high. We were monitoring various radio transmissions from other aircraft as we entered Los Angeles airspace. Though they didn't really control us, they did monitor our movement across their scope. I heard a Cessna ask for a readout of its groundspeed.
'90 knots' Center replied.
Moments later, a Twin Beech required the same.
'120 knots' Center answered.
We weren't the only ones proud of our groundspeed that day. Almost instantly an F/A 18 smugly transmitted:
'Ah, Center, Dusty 52 requests groundspeed readout'.
There was a slight pause, then the response:
'525 knots on the ground, Dusty'.
Another silent pause. As I was thinking to myself how ripe a situation this was, I heard a familiar click of a radio transmission coming from my back-seater. It was at that precise moment I realised Walt and I had become a real crew, for we were both thinking in unison.
'Center, Aspen 20, you got a ground speed readout for us?'
There was a longer than normal pause:
'Aspen, I show 1742 knots'.
No further enquiries were heard on that frequency."
PS, NW1, get that ball in the centre!