Landing Behind a Heavy
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Landing Behind a Heavy
Just curious,
Say you are a medium aircraft ( Airbus 321) landing behind a heavy (airbus 330) with radar separation of 5nm on the approach. Winds quarterly at about 7-9kts, high elevation airfield (3000ft AMSL), flat terrain, and early morning thermals. Could the wake from the heavy aircraft contribute to an environmental perturbance i.e. make you float during the flare (aircraft not sinking as usual as flare commenced and Thrust retarded)
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Say you are a medium aircraft ( Airbus 321) landing behind a heavy (airbus 330) with radar separation of 5nm on the approach. Winds quarterly at about 7-9kts, high elevation airfield (3000ft AMSL), flat terrain, and early morning thermals. Could the wake from the heavy aircraft contribute to an environmental perturbance i.e. make you float during the flare (aircraft not sinking as usual as flare commenced and Thrust retarded)
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Last edited by Maverick2167; 1st May 2024 at 07:08.
Thermals can do that as do inversions but as you’ve mentioned early morning thermals the inversion is likely to be much higher. Did a go around followed by further wake turbulence on second approach at LHR after sea breeze front had changed runways on to easterlies whilst we had a tail wind on approach.
Seen wind switch 180 degrees with an overall strength change of more than 10 knots through thermal release.
Seen wind switch 180 degrees with an overall strength change of more than 10 knots through thermal release.
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Thermals can do that as do inversions but as you’ve mentioned early morning thermals the inversion is likely to be much higher. Did a go around followed by further wake turbulence on second approach at LHR after sea breeze front had changed runways on to easterlies whilst we had a tail wind on approach.
Seen wind switch 180 degrees with an overall strength change of more than 10 knots through thermal release.
Seen wind switch 180 degrees with an overall strength change of more than 10 knots through thermal release.
AFAIK wake vortices create short term turbulence and roll motions. Ground effect is something completely different. In ground effect you speed remains ’normal’, vortices would create large speed fluctuations and possible instant roll.
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Agreed. Just the top of my head- the pics that you see in textbooks- wake vortices are something like doughnuts (rings) trailing behind the wingtips right? So on the ground and near to touchdown, wouldn't these doughnuts or rings be broken by the tarmac and thus form some sort of half-ring cushion of air?
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Just curious,
Say you are a medium aircraft ( Airbus 321) landing behind a heavy (airbus 330) with radar separation of 5nm on the approach. Winds quarterly at about 7-9kts, high elevation airfield (3000ft AMSL), flat terrain, and early morning thermals. Could the wake from the heavy aircraft contribute to an environmental perturbance i.e. make you float during the flare (aircraft not sinking as usual as flare commenced and Thrust retarded)
Thanks
Say you are a medium aircraft ( Airbus 321) landing behind a heavy (airbus 330) with radar separation of 5nm on the approach. Winds quarterly at about 7-9kts, high elevation airfield (3000ft AMSL), flat terrain, and early morning thermals. Could the wake from the heavy aircraft contribute to an environmental perturbance i.e. make you float during the flare (aircraft not sinking as usual as flare commenced and Thrust retarded)
Thanks