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Old 13th Dec 2020, 16:08
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Ye Olde Airbus Clock is no more

"The validity of the WTB test is based on the calendar built into the a/c clock so adjusting the clock by more than 9 days will render the test log invalid - causing the slats and flaps to lock. Ordinarily the a/c clock runs with real-time updates off the GPS master clock and shouldn't be changed."

Who remembers when this used to be a thing?
Nice of Airbus to finally fix it.

Edit: I have heard a story or two about a hands on FO who once changed the clock in mid air causing flaps and slats to lock!

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Old 14th Dec 2020, 13:06
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What was the logic here?
I mean - clocks and wing-tip brake. Where's the connection logic I'm currently missing?
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Old 14th Dec 2020, 13:12
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Using the clock to monitor/mandate the periodicity of the check?

So if the check has to be done every ten days (say), skipping a bunch of days in the clock would make the system think you had missed a check and it'd cry 'foul'?

Seems a bit extreme.
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Old 14th Dec 2020, 21:06
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Originally Posted by 411A NG View Post
What was the logic here?
I mean - clocks and wing-tip brake. Where's the connection logic I'm currently missing?
The logic is.... Airbus
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You mean there are people who know how to set that clock?
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You mean there are people who know how to set that clock?
Hell yeah, where you think we get our overtime from???
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Originally Posted by 411A NG View Post
What was the logic here?
I mean - clocks and wing-tip brake. Where's the connection logic I'm currently missing?
The wing-tip brakes need to be checked by engineers every 9 or 10 days, (I don't know the exact details of the check). I think the only 'stay-alive' date and time reference the aircraft has/had was its on-board clock. Presumably there is now another reference.
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I remember in the old FCOM on the clock section the line * resetting the clock is a maintenance issue * ........
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"Remember adjusting it daylight saving time"

Then you go home and leave your just checked out colleague.
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Old 15th Dec 2020, 15:34
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Is this what they call a "grandfathered clock" ?
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Old 15th Dec 2020, 22:13
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Had it twice on A340. The first one was on grd before departure, MX had it wrong.

The 2nd was inflight......

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Iím not a Bus pilot, but just pulled up the A321 FCOM on my EFB put of curiosity. The section on setting the clock in internal mode states it must be completed within a minute of the CFDS (Centralised Fault Detection System) will need to be reset...[which] is a maintenance operation. Not seeing any warmings not to meddle with clock apart from that (yes I know that normally you wouldnít but if itís wrong, you might.)
On another note, just reading the clock section made me glad Iím on a Boeing. I need a lie down in a dark room after that!
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Old 16th Dec 2020, 22:38
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I do know some pilots who would pull the clock change knob, stopping the clock at departure time.

Then, when they pushed a few minutes late the scheduled departure time would be sent to the company rather than the actual time...

,.. they would reset the clock after pushback.

When I told them about the Wing Tip Brakes being governed by the clock output - they looked at me blankly.
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Brave souls. Iíd rather manually enter each waypoint for a 5 hour flight than try to do anything other than start and stop the ET.
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Originally Posted by Jump Complete View Post
On another note, just reading the clock section made me glad I’m on a Boeing. I need a lie down in a dark room after that!
In the very dark hours on a 787, I watched the seconds count backwards every time it ticked over a minute. I videoed it to be sure I wasn’t hallucinating. The MX department, Flt Ops and Boeing all said it couldn’t happen, yet it did.

Never had to adjust an Airbus clock, they’ve always marched in the correct direction 😂😂

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A320 Glider,

What is the source for your ďclock is no moreĒ thread starter?

If itís the FCOM, could you please cite the page (we unfortunately do not use the FCOM), if another publication could you direct me to it?

Thanks,
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