Salvage A380 engines
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Salvage A380 engines
Is there an existing twin engined airliner which perhaps the A380 engines ( at least the ones made with thrust reversers ) , could be modified to work on? Seems a great pity to mothball so much equipment.
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Short answer is no.
First, you don't just hang an engine on wing of a new aircraft and go flying - there is a massive amount of engineering that goes into integrating the engine to the airframe. Structures, fuel, avionics, hydraulics, electrical power generation, FADEC/instrumentation, etc. Rare is the new engine installation that doesn't require significant airframe changes to make it viable. Plus, a new engine installation triggers the Change Product Rule, so it's a major certification effort. If you started work today, you're talking a three to four year program before it's certified for commercial service.
Second, you're still talking a previous generation engine tech - the latest generation of engines is already several percent better in fuel burn (e.g. GEnx and GE9X).
Third, what airframe would it fit? It's too big for a 767/A330 (and the NEO already exists for the A330), too small for the 787/A350.
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First, you don't just hang an engine on wing of a new aircraft and go flying - there is a massive amount of engineering that goes into integrating the engine to the airframe. Structures, fuel, avionics, hydraulics, electrical power generation, FADEC/instrumentation, etc. Rare is the new engine installation that doesn't require significant airframe changes to make it viable. Plus, a new engine installation triggers the Change Product Rule, so it's a major certification effort. If you started work today, you're talking a three to four year program before it's certified for commercial service.
Second, you're still talking a previous generation engine tech - the latest generation of engines is already several percent better in fuel burn (e.g. GEnx and GE9X).
Third, what airframe would it fit? It's too big for a 767/A330 (and the NEO already exists for the A330), too small for the 787/A350.
Big Pistons - I WANT ONE!!!
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Imagination running wild, what about the other way around? Trent XBW for the dugong, enabling a stretch. The redesigned fuselage comes with a reinforced floor for the cargo variant (where volume matters), and the cockpit is pushed upwards(*) to allow for nose-loading door. Bleedless installation.
(*) or somewhere else completely, synthetic vision permitting.
Oh, sorry, this thread is saving the engines not the skeleton.
Sounds like a new aircraft anyway.
(exits stage through the trap-door)
(*) or somewhere else completely, synthetic vision permitting.
Oh, sorry, this thread is saving the engines not the skeleton.
Sounds like a new aircraft anyway.(exits stage through the trap-door)
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This is for makeshift package freighters only non-permanently converted from now unused passenger airplanes. Corona express cargo and such. It will still need some paperwork and they did some refit kit. It is neither P2F nor freighter. Just an empty passenger cabin used to store lightweight cargo. Boeing and Airbus have similar conversion kits.
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Oh OK.
Because as you are most likely aware the 380 is structurally inefficient as a freighter (a 777F is hauling significantly more cargo per weight). Not to mention the loading issues.
Unfortunately atm the is very little in sight for what remains the best passenger experience in the market 🙄
Because as you are most likely aware the 380 is structurally inefficient as a freighter (a 777F is hauling significantly more cargo per weight). Not to mention the loading issues.
Unfortunately atm the is very little in sight for what remains the best passenger experience in the market 🙄
