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Old 17th Apr 2020, 14:28
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A320 phone holder

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Does anyone know why Airbus decided to remove the ash trays from the cockpit? Now Iíve nowhere to store my phone

First world problems, I know...
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Old 17th Apr 2020, 14:47
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I sympathise, it was perfect for my crappy company phone and a little bottle of hand sanitiser. My personal phone has been to big to have fit in there for years and as illegal as it is, usually sits just behind the side storage on the little shelf by the vent. I judge my rotation aggressiveness by whether it has fallen into the side stowage or stayed in place.

Have you noticed it's been replaced by an official no smoking sticker on the window?
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Old 17th Apr 2020, 14:54
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Those ash trays fitted PERFECTLY in between the front seats of most car models.

Bad things happen in twos.
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Old 17th Apr 2020, 14:58
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Originally Posted by giggitygiggity View Post
I sympathise, it was perfect for my crappy company phone and a little bottle of hand sanitiser. My personal phone has been to big to have fit in there for years and as illegal as it is, usually sits just behind the side storage on the little shelf by the vent. I judge my rotation aggressiveness by whether it has fallen into the side stowage or stayed in place.

Have you noticed it's been replaced by an official no smoking sticker on the window?
Itís also a good place to keep a pen, with the sanitiser.

I did notice the new sticker! I guess that implies that smoking is permitted on the other planes! Out of curiosity, what kind of phone do you have, that wonít fit there?
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Old 17th Apr 2020, 15:02
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Those ash trays fitted PERFECTLY in between the front seats of most car models.

Bad things happen in twos.
Ha! Iíve only seen the actual ash tray once or twice. I imagine going into somebodyís office and seeing them stacked to the ceiling in a corner.
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Old 17th Apr 2020, 16:32
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It’s also a good place to keep a pen, with the sanitiser.

I did notice the new sticker! I guess that implies that smoking is permitted on the other planes! Out of curiosity, what kind of phone do you have, that won’t fit there?
Iphone 11 Pro Max (it's bloody huge), it does fit in there portrait, but it doesnt stay in as too much weigh sticks out the back.

On the matter of the pen, I'm not sure i could cope with anywhere but my right hand shirt pocket, it's resided there for years and to change that now would be far too confusing.

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Ha! I’ve only seen the actual ash tray once or twice. I imagine going into somebody’s office and seeing them stacked to the ceiling in a corner.
Ours are all usually found in one of the back cubbys below the rear CBs. I assume they should officially be on board as they're probably in a rediculous part of the MEL.
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Originally Posted by giggitygiggity View Post
Iphone 11 Pro Max (it's bloody huge), it does fit in there portrait, but it doesnt stay in as too much weigh sticks out the back.

On the matter of the pen, I'm not sure i could cope with anywhere but my right hand shirt pocket, it's resided there for years and to change that now would be far too confusing.


Ours are all usually found in one of the back cubbys below the rear CBs. I assume they should officially be on board as they're probably in a rediculous part of the MEL.
Hmm. Unusual. Iíve got the same phone. Never had an issue. Itís stayed put through some of my less finessed manoeuvres. Maybe the texture of the case I have gives a bit of grip.

I keep my pen in the left pocket. And itís mighty confusing if Iím not wearing my uniform shirt. Nowhere to put it, apart from the ashtray...
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Old 17th Apr 2020, 17:53
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Have they removed the pen holders as well then?
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Old 17th Apr 2020, 18:47
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Originally Posted by Check Airman View Post
Hmm. Unusual. Iíve got the same phone. Never had an issue. Itís stayed put through some of my less finessed manoeuvres. Maybe the texture of the case I have gives a bit of grip.

I keep my pen in the left pocket. And itís mighty confusing if Iím not wearing my uniform shirt. Nowhere to put it, apart from the ashtray...
It's probably because the sanitiser is in there already, i've been a massive germaphobe long before any of this and that must always be in a position so i can quick don it!

If i'm working in civvies, the pen gets hooked onto my lanyard, but I still can never find it. Recently at my airline they have changed to require uniform at all sims, whilst many protested, it made the pen holstering easier. We can still wear civvies for delivery flights. An odd muddle of rules.
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Have they removed the pen holders as well then?
The pen holder is still there, but it becomes a mangled mess pretty quickly.
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A320 phone holder

When I read the title, I thought this thread was going to be about cadets.

Disappointed.
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Old 17th Apr 2020, 22:43
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When I read the title, I thought this thread was going to be about cadets.

Disappointed.
Iíll admit that I also took the bait, but then hit amazon anyway to see what phone suction mounts are available.

For me it would make WhatsApp video calls from the cockpit a lot easier, and for the cadets, their tick-tockery!

Also, I bet an iPhone is a more reliable satnav than the FMGC.
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Old 17th Apr 2020, 23:49
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I don't think I've ever SLF'd without a uniform shirt under me cardi. Passport, buttoned down and pen in the left. That's okay, but on the sleeve. It's a bloody rightist society. I've still got a wool night-flight jumper with pen loop on left arm. Reaching for it with my left hand gets me some interested looks, but from the wrong gender.
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I don't think I've ever SLF'd without a uniform shirt under me cardi. Passport, buttoned down and pen in the left. That's okay, but on the sleeve. It's a bloody rightist society. I've still got a wool night-flight jumper with pen loop on left arm. Reaching for it with my left hand gets me some interested looks, but from the wrong gender.
I loved my NATO issue pilots jumper with the pen holder on the arms, but I realise that if i wore it to work now (well, 2 months ago at any rate), Iíd be laughed at, all the way to the bank.

Aside from that, the rightists will prevail!
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Old 18th Apr 2020, 06:58
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No MEL/CDL cover as ge

Originally Posted by giggitygiggity View Post
Iphone 11 Pro Max (it's bloody huge), it does fit in there portrait, but it doesnt stay in as too much weigh sticks out the back.

On the matter of the pen, I'm not sure i could cope with anywhere but my right hand shirt pocket, it's resided there for years and to change that now would be far too confusing.


Ours are all usually found in one of the back cubbys below the rear CBs. I assume they should officially be on board as they're probably in a rediculous part of the MEL.
Correct me please but there is neither a MEL nor CDL for a missing ash-tray on the flight deck (not in position). If it is missing, it is no-go.
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Old 19th Apr 2020, 09:58
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Correct me please but there is neither a MEL nor CDL for a missing ash-tray on the flight deck (not in position). If it is missing, it is no-go.
If an item is missing in the MEL it can be either because it is required for the flight or it is not an airworthiness/safety related item. I guess the ashtray unfortunately falls in the second group.
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Old 19th Apr 2020, 10:14
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Have you noticed it's been replaced by an official no smoking sticker on the window?
Obviously EU...

Aside from that, the rightists will prevail!
We're all born right-handed. Only some of us overcome it!

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Old 19th Apr 2020, 13:07
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Originally Posted by Weapons Grade View Post
Correct me please but there is neither a MEL nor CDL for a missing ash-tray on the flight deck (not in position). If it is missing, it is no-go.
I'd assume it'd be on the NEF list.
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