A320 missing procedures
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A320 missing procedures
Have been doing some Airbus training lately and looking at some old memos from not that long ago that discussed FCOM/FCTM/QRH changes. It seems like some of the procedures they discuss are no longer around including....
No Flaps No Slats Landing.
Two Engine Inop Landing.
Sidestick/Rudder Pedals Rigid
Engine Fuel System Contamination
Perhaps they are around somewhere and I just can't find them. Anybody have any details about them. Perhaps renamed or if gone, what they were about.
No Flaps No Slats Landing.
Two Engine Inop Landing.
Sidestick/Rudder Pedals Rigid
Engine Fuel System Contamination
Perhaps they are around somewhere and I just can't find them. Anybody have any details about them. Perhaps renamed or if gone, what they were about.
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They are still there (in FCOM & QRH). There have been a lot of changes/rearrangements recently, so it’s confusing sometimes especially for those who got used to the old style.
Well, at least it’s about 330. I guess it’s true about any Airbus.
Well, at least it’s about 330. I guess it’s true about any Airbus.
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The ABN-27-Sidestick / Rudder Pedals Rigid procedure is removed from the FCOM and QRH, as it does not require any specific actions, and only provide some basic airmanship information.
It is not in the FCTM. Does anybody have the removed info that they can post.
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It’s what I heard from some instructors. We can expect some important changes in Airbus SOP including briefing. I don’t have more details. Maybe Vilas would know?
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Latest FOT from Airbus, December 10th 2019:
- Airbus is preparing changes in the operational documentation associated with new normal checklists, new guidance for flight crew briefings, and convergence of SOP to further harmonize procedures across aircraft types.
- The airm of this FOT is to provide preliminary information and a planning so that Operators can anticipate the implementation in their crew training before implementation in Airbus documentation at the end of 2020.
- New changes at the end of 2020:
New version of Normal Checklists and associated SOP and FCTM
Changes in SOP and FCTM to highlight the new guidance to cunduct flight crew briefings
Changes in SOP to further harmonize procedures across all aircraft types (from A319 to A380).
The rest is a brief description of the reasons behind this changes, plus a link for the webinars. I still haven't clicked on the links (it is Sunday, please!!), but I guess the information describing the actual changes should be found there.
You guys haven't received anyt of this from your Flight Ops Departments?
- Airbus is preparing changes in the operational documentation associated with new normal checklists, new guidance for flight crew briefings, and convergence of SOP to further harmonize procedures across aircraft types.
- The airm of this FOT is to provide preliminary information and a planning so that Operators can anticipate the implementation in their crew training before implementation in Airbus documentation at the end of 2020.
- New changes at the end of 2020:
New version of Normal Checklists and associated SOP and FCTM
Changes in SOP and FCTM to highlight the new guidance to cunduct flight crew briefings
Changes in SOP to further harmonize procedures across all aircraft types (from A319 to A380).
The rest is a brief description of the reasons behind this changes, plus a link for the webinars. I still haven't clicked on the links (it is Sunday, please!!), but I guess the information describing the actual changes should be found there.
You guys haven't received anyt of this from your Flight Ops Departments?
The changes are largely to do with checklists. Airbus are trying to make pilots think, not read and do. Checklists will be reduced to just what will kill or injure. eg. after landing checklist is just radar OFF (except A380). Nada mas.
The rest of it you will have to remember and THINK.
That said, there's nothing stopping a company from keeping what's currently there, if they don't think their crews are up to it.
Briefings are also going to be kept BRIEF. Almost everything will be done prior to the brief except what we're going to do today that's different, and out EO SID. And some SOP changes to keep fleet commonality.
There are some good videos of the rationale and plans AirbusWorld if you have access
The rest of it you will have to remember and THINK.
That said, there's nothing stopping a company from keeping what's currently there, if they don't think their crews are up to it.
Briefings are also going to be kept BRIEF. Almost everything will be done prior to the brief except what we're going to do today that's different, and out EO SID. And some SOP changes to keep fleet commonality.
There are some good videos of the rationale and plans AirbusWorld if you have access
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