True 100% Autoland. No Crew Input needed.
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True 100% Autoland. No Crew Input needed.
Cirrus and Garmin have just introduced Safe Return Emergency Autoland. if the sole pilot of the Cirrus Vision Jet becomes incapacitated, all a passenger has to do is hit the big red "land the airplane" button and the jet automatically turns towards the nearest suitable runway, taking terrain, obstacles and wether into account, squawks 7700, configures the aircraft, lands, and stops. Piper uses the same Garmin technology branded as "Halo", also integrated into the G3000 avionics suite.
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Really?
I'd love to know how it controls the power. Does this type of aircraft have an autothrottle, or some fadec-like control of the engine?
Sounds like an extremely useful innovation though- would save lives in its first year for sure.
I'd love to know how it controls the power. Does this type of aircraft have an autothrottle, or some fadec-like control of the engine?
Sounds like an extremely useful innovation though- would save lives in its first year for sure.
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Autothrottle system and a whole bunch of airline tech - in a lighty. Pretty impressive if it all works as advertised.
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Passenger: "Damn - I think I might have forgotten to turn the gas off! Hang on..."
How does this fit in with airports who have declared that they will not accept emergency diversions?
How does this fit in with airports who have declared that they will not accept emergency diversions?
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Saw a similar demo with the Piper M600 turboprop. Apparently it has autopilot actuated flaps, autothrust, gear which enables the autoland feature. Interestingly enough the whole feature works completely without any machine learning or AI technique.
Found it again:
Found it again:
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How does this fit in with airports who have declared that they will not accept emergency diversions?
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How does this fit in with airports who have declared that they will not accept emergency diversions?
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Exciting capability, and it seems that it works, when it works. I wonder what the failure modes and contingencies for those are. Hard to imagine that it has the redundancies that LAND 3 does, so I wonder what the safety standards for these Part 23 aircraft will be. Will there be Special Conditions? Will industry draft and establish its own standards, which the FAA must bless?
There are a few FAA lines of business, I would think, that must be involved in approving this. Certification, of course, flight standards and ATC. I wonder what the timelines are and whether there is a regulatory advisory committee supporting the development of standards.
There are a few FAA lines of business, I would think, that must be involved in approving this. Certification, of course, flight standards and ATC. I wonder what the timelines are and whether there is a regulatory advisory committee supporting the development of standards.
