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Old 21st Jul 2019, 05:22
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Mixed Flying ERJ135/140/170/190

Any Airlines doing this and any info regarding this topic would be apreciated
i need to establish the pro’s and Cons on duel flying

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Any Airlines doing this and any info regarding this topic would be apreciated
i need to establish the pro’s and Cons on duel flying
Envoy (American Eagle) -go over to APC.
the 175 is an RJ due to the US scope clause however, where the 190 is an airliner...
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We would very much like to change that.

As far as I know, the airline operates both types, but the pilots do not fly the 170 and 145 simultaneously. They're on one fleet or another.
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Originally Posted by Edriver83
Any Airlines doing this and any info regarding this topic would be apreciated
i need to establish the pro’s and Cons on duel flying
I would be very interested in the business model and the operational specifics of "duel flying" for airlines and airliners. Sounds like a very telegenic sport.

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We would very much like to change that.

As far as I know, the airline operates both types, but the pilots do not fly the 170 and 145 simultaneously. They're on one fleet or another.
Correct, the 145 (&140) and the 175 are operated as different fleets and dont even share all bases I believe. My previous operator had us crew both CRJ 700s and 900's.The 200s were a separate group of Pilots.
The most aggressive I've heard is Skywest, with crew operating the CRJ200, 700 & 900 on the same day.
That said, ive been sitting behind a big green 'a321' decal for the last 9 hours.
Wasn't the EK A340 near disaster in Melbourne a few years ago partly the result of mixed fleet flying?

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140/5 mixed with 170/190 would seem pretty ambitious as the flight decks seem to be quite different. Decades ago we did Dash 7/Dash 8 and Dash 8/Fokker 50 mixed which seemed "doable" at the time and did not even require double proficiency checks for the Dash 7 / Dash 8 combination but I still remember our flight operations manager's finger spiraling around the overhad panel until he found the right button. It's probably a bit easier if you fly lots of sectors like we did on the turboprops. Couldn't imagine to do it on LR types where you'd maybe have two flights each.
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Obvious differences: A/T vs No A/T, TOGA Buttons at complete different positions.
Not to mention the complete A/C difference and handling qualities, sure no problem when all go's well, but when things go wrong....
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