A321 NEO LR Range Performance
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A321 NEO LR Range Performance
Hi everyone,
We see more and more articles about the A321 NEO LR and the potential new transatlantic routes.
Recently we had the 4109 NM flight of the A321 NEO LR prototype from SEZ to TLS (4750 NM Air Distance). Airbus said it was with 160 dummies passengers + 11 flights crew and technicians.
Primera Air is the first airline operating the A321 NEO LR, they have a cabin configuration as below :
16J
182Y
Which is more or less 20 Tonnes payload.
What in real world operations should be the max route range for the A321 NEO LR with a 20 Tonnes payload (and indeed 3 ACTs)?
3600NM?
3800 NM?
4000 NM?
More?
Thanks for your feedback.
We see more and more articles about the A321 NEO LR and the potential new transatlantic routes.
Recently we had the 4109 NM flight of the A321 NEO LR prototype from SEZ to TLS (4750 NM Air Distance). Airbus said it was with 160 dummies passengers + 11 flights crew and technicians.
Primera Air is the first airline operating the A321 NEO LR, they have a cabin configuration as below :
16J
182Y
Which is more or less 20 Tonnes payload.
What in real world operations should be the max route range for the A321 NEO LR with a 20 Tonnes payload (and indeed 3 ACTs)?
3600NM?
3800 NM?
4000 NM?
More?
Thanks for your feedback.
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The A321LR will not carry 200 pax (20t) and fuel for 3 ACT´s. You will have to reduce either the fuel or the payload. A lot depends on the actual OEW of the operator. Is it bare bones? With limited catering? or is it J and Y? I am not sure Primera Air will carry regular J (lie flat) seats. Perhaps similar to US domestic first class. There is not enough real estate for 16 lie-flats and 182Y. So your hypothetical config will probably be either payload limited or fuel limited. If you choose the 20t payload, the range will probably be right around 3000nm (+resereves).
The optimum configuration will probably be 2 ACT´s, and around 180 pax. It will take a premium heavy and high yielding (not LCC) route to optimise for 3 ACT´s and around 160 seats to reach maximum range.
The optimum configuration will probably be 2 ACT´s, and around 180 pax. It will take a premium heavy and high yielding (not LCC) route to optimise for 3 ACT´s and around 160 seats to reach maximum range.
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Howvere, it seems (read in another thread) that operations STN-EWR go smooth without diversions on the NEO (non LR).
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I've done a 7h flight on a plain normal 321(2 ACT obviously) without too many problems. ALTN at around 30mins away
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Certainly interesting numbers.
The 737 Max is currently doing all the long range single isle flying in Asia. Silk Air doing flights around 7 hours. Obviously not with the 321 pax numbers.
So the A321NEO will be in a class of its own?
The 737 Max is currently doing all the long range single isle flying in Asia. Silk Air doing flights around 7 hours. Obviously not with the 321 pax numbers.
So the A321NEO will be in a class of its own?
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Well done to Airbus. They are squeezing every single drop out of the existing frame. I wonder if there will be another MTOM boost - to 100t or perhaps even more? Another question is the current wing. What kind of aerodynamic changes are they going to implement (if any)? Wing loading of the A321 is already pretty high.
