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Old 22nd August 2017 | 12:03
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EASA definitions of height and altitude

Can anybody refer me to either EASA or ICAO's definitive definitions of the words "height" and "altitude" ? I know what they mean, and have plenty of textbooks - but I'm writing to EASA about something where the definition is legally really important, and I can't seem to find their own formal definition of the terms.
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Old 22nd August 2017 | 12:15
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If you have the ICAO definitions, nice to have, and I shall owe you a virtual beer. But for now - the SERA reference is perfect - thanks Looking.
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I gave up emptying it, boffin at engineer dot com will reach me.

And thanks again - all really helpful.
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Okay, when looking at definitions, never, ever stop at the first level, especially depending on the usage and context.

for example:
Altitude: The vertical distance of a level, a point or an object considered as a point, measured from mean sea level (MSL).

Okay, that looks good...BUT. what is the definition of MSL? Is it altitude based on a specific datum?

Height: The vertical distance of a level, a point, or an object considered as a point, measured from a specified datum

In aviation, HAT is height using the ASBL as the foundation...or DA/MDA...based on ASBL, rather than terrain.. So context is important, especially when the Country is using their own datum.

Alas, there is Orthometric Height (approx ht abv MSL), Ellipsoid Height, and Geoid Height. The height can be based off the WGS 84 Ellipsoid, EGM96, EGM2008 or the Euro model EVRS....

The EVRS is realised in the European Vertical Reference Frame (EVRF) by the geopotential numbers and Normal Heights of nodal points of the United European Levelling Network 95/98 extended for Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Romania, in relation to the Normaal Amsterdams Peils (NAP). The geopotential number at NAP is zero.

So, what was your question?

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