Engine Seperation

[de facto]

I was taught told since day one,if both N1/N2 are down to a 0, all other parameters(oil/FF) inop AND fire det FAULT is illuminated then to treat it as separation.
Now,the severe damage and separatin are in the same checklist and require the same memory items.
Never hurt anyone to check with the cabin and get a photo shot of it;-)

[de facto]

EEC power wiring destroyed?

You mean the whole EEC would be gone now, wouldnt it?

[lomapaseo]

Never hurt anyone to check with the cabin and get a photo shot of it;-)

Pan Am had one back in the 90's where it really did seize just after rotation. They cleaned up the aircraft and made an uneventful ATB

The third guy in the cockpit went back to take a look over a womans shoulder and related that he saw a big gaping hole in the aft section of the engine. The woman remarked that she saw flame out of the engine and was concerned. He told her it was nothing to worry about an went back to the cockpit and said to the pilot wholly ch***t there' a whopping hole in the side of that engine you can fit your head in!!

I heard this from the guy himself who flew the next day's aircraft back to JFK

[NSEU]

Originally Posted by NSEU

EEC power wiring destroyed?

Originally Posted by de facto

You mean the whole EEC would be gone now, wouldnt it?

I thought we were trying to distinguish between catastrophic engine failure and separation? Catastrophic might include total destruction of EEC wiring which would, in some ways, mimic separation.