"Expect late landing clearance"


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Oicur,
Following the published miss will work for the first go; less so for numbers 2-5. Also if they are running converging runways, it will get real dicey.
GF
Following the published miss will work for the first go; less so for numbers 2-5. Also if they are running converging runways, it will get real dicey.
GF
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Scenario: STN. A/C lined up and given takeoff clearance. He is tardy and is taking a long time. (we've heard stories about no cabin secure etc.) ATC says to a/c on finals, "continue, expect late landing clearance." All seems fine. ATC gets nervous and at 200' calls a G/A just as ground traffic starts to roll. The GA route stops at 3000' and is exactly the same as the SID which stops at 4000'.
What would you do? is the question on the ATC exam paper.
What would you do? is the question on the ATC exam paper.
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Scenario: STN. A/C lined up and given takeoff clearance. He is tardy and is taking a long time. (we've heard stories about no cabin secure etc.) ATC says to a/c on finals, "continue, expect late landing clearance." All seems fine. ATC gets nervous and at 200' calls a G/A just as ground traffic starts to roll. The GA route stops at 3000' and is exactly the same as the SID which stops at 4000'.
What would you do? is the question on the ATC exam paper.
What would you do? is the question on the ATC exam paper.
Bleeds off and climb like I mean it to 4000ft and convince traffic below to level off at 3000 or before.
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From: Rapunzel's tower
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Thanks for replies so far 
Another query....
Let's assume other protocols are in place for low visibility operations...in VMC is there a limit in your SOPs where if you see the runway is still blocked you would perform a missed approach? If so, is this below your minima? (I'm thinking about CAT I approaches btw)

Another query....
Let's assume other protocols are in place for low visibility operations...in VMC is there a limit in your SOPs where if you see the runway is still blocked you would perform a missed approach? If so, is this below your minima? (I'm thinking about CAT I approaches btw)
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From: Rapunzel's tower
So, provided you're also provided with a reason why (e.g. Departure ahead) are you in favour of "Expect late landing clearance [reason]" or would you prefer "Continue approach [reason]" ???






