Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Flight Deck Forums > Tech Log
Reload this Page >

EPR at takeoff for A330 RR Trent

Wikiposts
Search

Notices
Tech Log The very best in practical technical discussion on the web

EPR at takeoff for A330 RR Trent

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 22nd January 2016 | 19:40
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 271
Likes: 1
From: On a good day - at sea
EPR at takeoff for A330 RR Trent

Airbus recently changed the Takeoff procedure to require setting 1.1 EPR before selecting FLX/TOGA when the crosswind is less than 20 kt.

Prior to the change they required 1.1 EPR regardless of the crosswind.

If anything I would have thought the higher EPR would be required when the crosswind is higher, not when it is less.

What am I missing here?
nnc0 is offline  
Reply
Old 22nd January 2016 | 20:21
  #2 (permalink)  
Community Builder
Community Influencer
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Aviation Qualifications: Non-Aircrew
Posts: 5,676
Likes: 3,317
From: Everett, WA
With a high crosswind, the higher the thrust setting the greater the risk of inlet separation and engine surge. As soon as you get some forward airspeed the risk of inlet separation drops rapidly.


Setting some 'off idle' power setting such as 1.1 EPR prior to selecting TOGA is because many engines are 'lazy' off idle. If one engine accelerates faster off idle you can get a big thrust asymmetry and resultant yaw, often resulting in an RTO.
tdracer is online now  
Reply
Old 23rd January 2016 | 11:10
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 47
Likes: 0
From: FL490
Originally Posted by tdracer
With a high crosswind, the higher the thrust setting the greater the risk of inlet separation and engine surge. As soon as you get some forward airspeed the risk of inlet separation drops rapidly.


Setting some 'off idle' power setting such as 1.1 EPR prior to selecting TOGA is because many engines are 'lazy' off idle. If one engine accelerates faster off idle you can get a big thrust asymmetry and resultant yaw, often resulting in an RTO.
I do have to apologise but this is plain wrong.

They have not changed the Takeoff procedure. I have just spoke to a couple of the guys at my airline who use the 330RR and they said they have not been informed of any change to takeoff EPR.
THR RED ACC is offline  
Reply
Old 23rd January 2016 | 14:13
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 4,569
Likes: 1
From: Florida
I do have to apologise but this is plain wrong.
I can't figure out what part is wrong since the quote above refers to multiple paragraphs of discussion
lomapaseo is offline  
Reply
Old 8th February 2016 | 21:33
  #5 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 271
Likes: 1
From: On a good day - at sea
Airbus have responded to advise that the FCOM procedure (Dec 2015) is incorrect and will be amended. With RR Trent 700s, per the AFM, EPR should be at 1.1 before selecting FLEX or TOGA, regardless of ambient wind conditions.
nnc0 is offline  
Reply

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.