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Old 1st July 2015 | 12:15
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Maybe the lights are on the centre line and it's the white line that is off centre.
Always thought the raised lights were for blind pilots so they use them like Braille.

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Old 1st July 2015 | 12:53
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I thought they were there to see if my haemorrhoid ointment was working.

Anybody know what height taxiway lights must be because in Belfast they have some absolutely enormous teeth loosening buggas.
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Old 1st July 2015 | 17:47
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I think Goldenrivett's reasoning is the best.

If power supply is closer from one side of the runway then it means less cabling so less cost !
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Old 2nd July 2015 | 22:23
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Old 2nd July 2015 | 22:43
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What I don't get is why the lights aren't on the painted centreline - why should there be separated? Back in the day, they weren't separated, were they?

Only possible reason - easier to paint the lines if you don't have to worry about the lights.
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Old 3rd July 2015 | 06:53
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Old 3rd July 2015 | 08:27
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Some runways have them recessed.


Why can this not be the standard, then there's no issue ?
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Old 3rd July 2015 | 08:53
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Another good question. Why, indeed, are the lights not aligned with the painted markings?
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Old 3rd July 2015 | 09:41
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If you can align the aircraft by the inch on landing you're a better man than me!
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Old 3rd July 2015 | 10:38
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Why, indeed, are the lights not aligned with the painted markings?
Maybe so that they don't have to cover all the lights when repainting the centreline every now and then? That's how a lazy person like myself would do that at home
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Old 3rd July 2015 | 11:48
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Why, indeed, are the lights not aligned with the painted markings?
It couldn't possibly be to assist avoiding the ker-thunk, ker-thunk on the take off run or landing roll. Could it?
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Old 3rd July 2015 | 12:44
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FAA AC 150/5340-30H
Runway centerline lighting.
(1) Location. The runway centerline lights are located along the runway centerline at 50 ft. (15m) equally spaced longitudinal intervals. The longitudinal tolerance for runway centerline lights is ±2 ft. (0.6 meter). See Figure 33 for a graphic of the runway centerline lighting layout. The line of runway centerline lights may be uniformly offset laterally to the same side of the physical runway centerline a maximum of 2.5 ft. (0.8 m) (tolerance ±1 inch (25.4 mm) measured from the physical runway centerline to the fixture centerline. For any new runway, the light base installation must be no closer than 2 ft. (0.6 m) (measured to the edge of the fixture base) to any pavement joints. Runway extensions of existing runways must use
the convention already established for that runway. See paragraph 4.3 and Figure 45 for additional information about the taxiway centerline lighting location requirements related to runway centerline lights for major taxiway turnoffs. See AC 150/5340-1 for additional information about runway centerline marking widths and location.
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Old 3rd July 2015 | 14:42
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easier to paint the lines if you don't have to worry about the lights.
What, me worry?

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Old 3rd July 2015 | 15:29
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I've noticed over the many years of observation that many F/O's land right of centreline. I asked many, why? The best answer I had was "I didn't want to break the lights, and I'm saving the white paint so it lasts longer." Can't argue with that.

It's a bit like the Air UK F27 crew who landed wheels up: why? "Our pay rise was denied due to increased costs so I was trying to save tyre wear."

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Old 3rd July 2015 | 19:16
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Might be better to have the centreline lights on the actual centreline and have the paint markings offset as it's easier to see in daylight where the runway edges are.
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Old 3rd July 2015 | 22:54
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Anyone know what dictates whether runway centerline lights are put to the left or right of the centerline marking ?
Is the airport North or South of the Equator? Anyway, real pilots don't need center line lighting.
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Old 4th July 2015 | 06:33
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I have had several questions moved to the Question forum, and I don't understand why this one remains in this.
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Old 6th July 2015 | 06:37
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Cats eyes

Why are cats eyes used to mark the centreline of roads?

Because if they used cats arses they would have to kill twice as many cats.
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Old 6th July 2015 | 07:03
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Now that is an interesting question! I have never noticed whether they are on the south or the north side. Can anyone enlighten us?
for runway 18/36 this question becomes really interesting .

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