Arricife RTOW

[Magplug]

Most aircraft have problems lifting a full payload out of ACE when the north-easterly wind favours 03. With up to 15kts tailwind most aircraft can lift a full load from 21 but when the aircraft tailwind limit is reached you are forced to go from 03 which is where the problems begin.

I see some operators are running long sectors from ACE. FR go to EDI on the 738, TCX to EMA on the 321 and even Norwegian to OSL on the 738.

A couple of questions:

- What sort of weight can a 737-800 lift out of ACE03 with a 15kt headwind at daytime temps?

- Do Ryanair or Norwegian block seats to get enough fuel on ?

[Callsign Kilo]

Seem to remember you can do around 72 tonnes on 03 with zero wind/OAT 20 degrees and no performance penalties. This would be for an engine bleeds off take off on the 738. The longer sectors were often evening departures.

[rjay259]

Best we can get is 77t.
03 030/15 25deg 1013.
Bleeds off.

We have 27k engines too.

[Jonty]

We can lift about 82T on a 321. But our emergency turn starts at about 60ft (0.6dme)

[blue up]

Can't recall ever using RW 21 whith the 757. Thinking about it, never done bleeds-off either.

Still, getting kicked onto the 737-800 next year so will have plenty of chances.

[McBruce]

RYR won't leave baggage or passengers behind, instead its fuel and we will do a tech stop for a splash and dash.