Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Flight Deck Forums > Tech Log
Reload this Page >

Do you realy need stators?

Wikiposts
Search

Notices
Tech Log The very best in practical technical discussion on the web

Do you realy need stators?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10th February 2013 | 19:16
  #41 (permalink)  
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Aviation Qualifications: ATP+Mil
Posts: 1,597
Likes: 192
From: Not far from a big Lake
Just a suggestion

rpetersson
You are interested in creating a jet engine without stators ( to simplify the project) and thereby use your CNC skills.
Let me suggest a slightly different project if I may.

There are a number of different used/surplus free turbine helicopter engines on the market that have the potential of being converted to jet engines.
If you merely remove the free turbine, you end up with tremendous vorticity out the exhaust since the turbine nozzle for the free turbine is usually part of the prior turbine stage.

What these free turbines need is a properly designed nozzle that redirects the flow axially or redesign of the final turbine stage to create axial flow.

The question then becomes would the project be too big for your equipment.
Just a thought.
Machinbird is offline  
Reply
Old 12th February 2013 | 08:44
  #42 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
From: Norway
Thanks

So many good suggestions - I just want to thank everyone for taking an intrest in my project.

Machinbird: That would indeed be a intresting project - maybe something i will look into after i create my miniture engine!

At this point I have come to the conclusion i will try to build a centrifugal engine to start the project. When i get that engine going i will move on with the axial-flow engine.

Impeller will be taken from a turbo-charger and i will machine the housing on the CNC machine.

Last edited by rpetersson; 12th February 2013 at 09:43.
rpetersson is offline  
Reply
Old 12th February 2013 | 09:43
  #43 (permalink)  
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 451
Likes: 0
From: Scotland
Sounds like a good idea to me - please keep us informed as to progress.
bcgallacher is offline  
Reply
Old 12th February 2013 | 12:07
  #44 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 491
Likes: 0
From: Dorking
I have no idea if the following as ever been tried:-

Drive alternate fan stages by shaft and by edge/rim driven discs. Definitely doable, but a bit bulky.
boguing is offline  
Reply
Old 12th February 2013 | 14:27
  #45 (permalink)  
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,581
Likes: 0
From: flyover country USA
Yes, alternate hub-driving & case-driving LP turbines on the GE UDF demonstrator engines of the 1980's. These were directly coupled to contra-rotating open fan blades.

No reason in theory why it shouldn't work in the compressor, although the cure seems worse than the disease.
barit1 is offline  
Reply
Old 12th February 2013 | 15:47
  #46 (permalink)  
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 335
Likes: 57
From: Oxford, England
Hi,

You might like to look up Ian Bennett, who probably has the largest collection of
turbine engines in the uk and has built engines from old turbochargers. There are
others in the uk who resore and run old engines at airshows. My restored Rover
apu from a Vulcan is now at the Gatwick Air Museum, though no idea if it's still
running.

Gas Turbine and Jet Engines

Last edited by syseng68k; 12th February 2013 at 15:50.
syseng68k is offline  
Reply
Old 12th February 2013 | 20:06
  #47 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 4,569
Likes: 1
From: Florida
Let us know how many disk and blade failures you get from cocincident vibratory modes when you try this.

You will never get to takeoff power before it blows up.
lomapaseo is offline  
Reply
Old 12th February 2013 | 20:12
  #48 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 491
Likes: 0
From: Dorking
lompaseo.

I don't think that he''s looking for takeoff power.

Although he might get it if standing in the wrong place!

Interesting project though.
boguing is offline  
Reply
Old 14th February 2013 | 10:16
  #49 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Apr 1998
Posts: 4
Likes: 1
From: Mesopotamos
If he doesn't blow up one or two and start from scratch all over again then he isn't trying hard enough.
cattletruck is offline  
Reply

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.