Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Flight Deck Forums > Tech Log
Reload this Page >

Beijing FIR waypoint "P253"

Wikiposts
Search
Tech Log The very best in practical technical discussion on the web

Beijing FIR waypoint "P253"

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 8th Dec 2011, 08:06
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Arizona
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Beijing FIR waypoint "P253"

Flying from Dalian to Beijing today were cleared to "pappa 253". We exhausted all cockpit resources and could not find such a waypoint. No such data point exists in our FMS database. Airline crews seemed to be familiar with it. Can anyone point me to the resource that contains the lat/long's? Thanks.
Arthur Q is offline  
Old 9th Dec 2011, 08:55
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 263
Received 3 Likes on 1 Post
The Papa waypoints appear on the chinese enroute charts only- not the Jepps or Aerad we carry. Occasionally they will appear on our flight plan (Prc based airline). They've had me baffled before too.
Karunch is offline  
Old 9th Dec 2011, 10:21
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Ankh Morpork, DW
Posts: 652
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Direct P253 is double secret SOP for arrivals from the southeast of Beijing. Don't ask why - it's just China.
ImbracableCrunk is offline  
Old 9th Dec 2011, 21:37
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Glasgow
Age: 73
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Strangely, P253 does appear on Flight Sim navigation products. To answer the OP's question N38 25' 00" E118 54' 59".

SFS
StainesFS is offline  
Old 10th Dec 2011, 06:01
  #5 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Arizona
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks all! I did find P253 in our flight planning service db. I sent a note to Jeppesen regarding the issue. If they do not have plans to include these points perhaps an alternate vendor can help.
Arthur Q is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.