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Old 8th December 2011 | 08:06
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Beijing FIR waypoint "P253"

Flying from Dalian to Beijing today were cleared to "pappa 253". We exhausted all cockpit resources and could not find such a waypoint. No such data point exists in our FMS database. Airline crews seemed to be familiar with it. Can anyone point me to the resource that contains the lat/long's? Thanks.
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Old 9th December 2011 | 08:55
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The Papa waypoints appear on the chinese enroute charts only- not the Jepps or Aerad we carry. Occasionally they will appear on our flight plan (Prc based airline). They've had me baffled before too.
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Old 9th December 2011 | 10:21
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Direct P253 is double secret SOP for arrivals from the southeast of Beijing. Don't ask why - it's just China.
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Old 9th December 2011 | 21:37
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Strangely, P253 does appear on Flight Sim navigation products. To answer the OP's question N38 25' 00" E118 54' 59".

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Old 10th December 2011 | 06:01
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Thanks all! I did find P253 in our flight planning service db. I sent a note to Jeppesen regarding the issue. If they do not have plans to include these points perhaps an alternate vendor can help.
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