Can we turn to final without atc instruction
Joined: Feb 1998
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
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From: Formerly of Nam
I wouldn't do it at SIN or CAN.
CAN is the worst (esp 02) as ATC doesn't give you any hints
as to its vectoring intentions. There you are all on profile for
what you think is an intercept of the LLZ - you've pulled a
bit of speedbrake earlier, TCAS looks logical - then he takes
you through the LLZ and puts you downwind for another 20
track miles so he can get the local boys you don't see behind
you in first.....
Other times he's kept you way too high, so much so you are
expecting he'll obviously keep you on a present perpendicular
heading. Then the bugger suddenly turns you onto a 30 deg
cut and tells you to drop to 900M - cleared for approach!
CAN is the worst (esp 02) as ATC doesn't give you any hints
as to its vectoring intentions. There you are all on profile for
what you think is an intercept of the LLZ - you've pulled a
bit of speedbrake earlier, TCAS looks logical - then he takes
you through the LLZ and puts you downwind for another 20
track miles so he can get the local boys you don't see behind
you in first.....
Other times he's kept you way too high, so much so you are
expecting he'll obviously keep you on a present perpendicular
heading. Then the bugger suddenly turns you onto a 30 deg
cut and tells you to drop to 900M - cleared for approach!
Thread Starter
Joined: Apr 2002
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From: w
Other times he's kept you way too high, so much so you are
expecting he'll obviously keep you on a present perpendicular
heading. Then the bugger suddenly turns you onto a 30 deg
cut and tells you to drop to 900M - cleared for approach!
expecting he'll obviously keep you on a present perpendicular
heading. Then the bugger suddenly turns you onto a 30 deg
cut and tells you to drop to 900M - cleared for approach!
Thread Starter
Joined: Apr 2002
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From: w
aterpster
now i believe it is not a good idea to turn with clearance.
will it bother the LAX ATC if i push the ident button to draw attention before across final? as you had a long career there, do you know if the ATC will be unhappy with that?
now i believe it is not a good idea to turn with clearance.
will it bother the LAX ATC if i push the ident button to draw attention before across final? as you had a long career there, do you know if the ATC will be unhappy with that?
