Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Flight Deck Forums > Tech Log
Reload this Page >

Will your hydraulics be available IF..

Wikiposts
Search
Tech Log The very best in practical technical discussion on the web

Will your hydraulics be available IF..

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 19th Oct 2011, 21:51
  #21 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: West Indies
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Spannersatcx.

I believe that my statement is still accurate in that the hydraulic pressure will fall to below 3000 psi below normal idle speed. I did not say how far below but for argument sake 1/2 or 1% is below normal idle speed and you are certainly not going to get 3000 psi at 1%. Your hydraulic "light" that you refer to is a low pressure light and therefore will go out as the pressure increases to or reduces past a certain level. That light would be set to trigger at BELOW the NORMAL hydraulic pressure. Once again, if the hydraulic pressure(normal) is 3000 psi at idle rpm then it must at some time reduce to less than 3000 psi as the engine goes BELOW the normal idle speed, which is what I said.
dhardesthard is offline  
Old 19th Oct 2011, 23:44
  #22 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: earth
Posts: 1,341
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Next time I idle a motor I will pay more attention, I believe I was looking at a pw4000 on an MD-11 and it developed 3k psi by 10% N2.
grounded27 is offline  
Old 20th Oct 2011, 07:20
  #23 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: back of beyond
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Aren't the EDP's positive displacement pumps? The question to ask is not what pressure it reaches when turning at low speed, but what will happen to that pressure if you put any demand on it.
fizz57 is offline  
Old 20th Oct 2011, 09:42
  #24 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 304
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Exactly, same with the airplanes I'm used to, at very low RPMs during starting, the hydraulic pressures are up fairly quickly, but it's pressure, not capacity until the pump RPM gets somewhere near normal.

Also, did I see someone earlier mention that he can run both aircon packs from one engine on a twin!
Not where I come from, a 737NG!

EW73
EW73 is offline  
Old 20th Oct 2011, 10:31
  #25 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 1998
Location: wherever
Age: 55
Posts: 1,616
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The E-jets idle the hydraulic pumps during engine starts to reduce starter loads so you don't see pressure until the start is well under way.( this is for in flight starts) Also for EW73, the E-jets can run 2 packs from one engine but the reduced flow restricts the aircraft to 31000ft. Above this it wouldn't meet the required lbs of air per passenger per minute. Some other aircraft are restricted to lower altitudes in the same condition.
FE Hoppy is offline  
Old 20th Oct 2011, 12:26
  #26 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: earth
Posts: 1,341
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Aren't the EDP's positive displacement pumps? The question to ask is not what pressure it reaches when turning at low speed, but what will happen to that pressure if you put any demand on it.
You now have me recalling my DC-10 days, the electric pumps would often fault a full A/P systems RTS when used. 2 electric pumps feeding the two RMP's could not maintain the pressure upon demand. It was common practice to dry motor #2 engine, the output (volume) was much greater.
grounded27 is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.