United Airlines launches paperless flight deck with iPad
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Having two identical consumer devices as the sole source of "Critical to Flight Safety" data is a bit sus IMO.
Many of your points relate to fear of change!
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All updating is done either by wi fi or 3G. Even the initial apps can be installed via wi fi, although it best be a fast connection.
Guess updating them iPads will be a huge hassle w/o an USB port.
Or maybe Ole Steve will do a Limited edition for United...
Or maybe Ole Steve will do a Limited edition for United...
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Our preflight includes updating the onboard laptops via USB stick, loaded at ops.
Looks like UA don't mind paying top buck for secure access to all its info, sensitive or not...
Looks like UA don't mind paying top buck for secure access to all its info, sensitive or not...
Looks like UA don't mind paying top buck for secure access to all its info, sensitive or not...
Guess updating them iPads will be a huge hassle w/o an USB port.
I pressed it, and it showed me that an update was pending. I pressed the button saying update charts, and they downloaded automatically over the next five minutes. (140mb).
Unfortunately the biggest hassle was having to get off the couch to get another beer.
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If you are young enough you will see Jeppesen charts that will make the present fixed graphics Jeppesen chart a pain. The future will be database Jeppesen charts, which will remove all non pertinent data once you have selected an IAF.
No, I disagree. I love the iPad and the expandable plates are a feast for the eyes. I too detest the paper version and hope their days are numbered.
With all of the money Jepp/Boeing makes, you would think they could afford some decent programmers....
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If using the iPad for viewing SID/STAR plates in the terminal area, airlines aren't really going to be able to require passenger electronic equipment to be switched off for takeoff/landing if the flight deck are using them...
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It is a dark, dark night (dark, cold and empty as a managers' heart) as you battle Greek ATC to go direct to the initial approach fix at XXX in the midst of TS and RA, the likes of which would make a Hadj pilot whince. Tossed like a green salad, you lumber towards the inbound track (LNAV, VNAV? Good boy!) with the autopilot and autothrottle pondering whether to play fair.
You look to your left and see the haggard face of an old man, sweat trickling down his forehead, worry lines creased and wrinkled. He looks to his left to see what you are staring at and he sees the same image but realises it is his own reflection in the dim light of the overhead lamp. Both of you wonder why the hell you didn't take voluntary severance when it was offered.
Vectored through a CB you start a roller coaster ride that has you bouncing off the speed limits during flap deployment and your rattling eyeballs faintly register CMR plus a couple of hundred kilos (Thank goodness you loaded an extra half ton, eh?) as the LNAV decides to widen out the turn just as you approach the inbound course, leaving you now at 90 degrees to the inbound track with 2 miles to go. ", and double " spouts your LHS guru as he tries to stab his gnarled fingers at the HDG SEL buttton.
"ApPr..ooooh...ching GL...idepaaaa...aath" says you as your diaphragm takes a pounding from the windshear, anchored down as you are by only a food-encrusted seatbelt and the ever tightening grip of 'Mr Pinchy' biting the seat fabric through the bottom of your lovely polyester trousers.
"Bs to this" shouts your colleague "set the missed approach altitude and let's get the out of here!"
You look down at you iPad thingy and realise that maybe it wasn't such a good idea to get the E-Jeppessen downloaded via a program written by the same bloke who wrote E-flightdeck, E-journey log and the company expenses expenses thingamajig.
"Hang on mate whilst it get it out of hibernation mode!"
The CVR stops recording.
You look to your left and see the haggard face of an old man, sweat trickling down his forehead, worry lines creased and wrinkled. He looks to his left to see what you are staring at and he sees the same image but realises it is his own reflection in the dim light of the overhead lamp. Both of you wonder why the hell you didn't take voluntary severance when it was offered.
Vectored through a CB you start a roller coaster ride that has you bouncing off the speed limits during flap deployment and your rattling eyeballs faintly register CMR plus a couple of hundred kilos (Thank goodness you loaded an extra half ton, eh?) as the LNAV decides to widen out the turn just as you approach the inbound course, leaving you now at 90 degrees to the inbound track with 2 miles to go. ", and double " spouts your LHS guru as he tries to stab his gnarled fingers at the HDG SEL buttton.
"ApPr..ooooh...ching GL...idepaaaa...aath" says you as your diaphragm takes a pounding from the windshear, anchored down as you are by only a food-encrusted seatbelt and the ever tightening grip of 'Mr Pinchy' biting the seat fabric through the bottom of your lovely polyester trousers.
"Bs to this" shouts your colleague "set the missed approach altitude and let's get the out of here!"
You look down at you iPad thingy and realise that maybe it wasn't such a good idea to get the E-Jeppessen downloaded via a program written by the same bloke who wrote E-flightdeck, E-journey log and the company expenses expenses thingamajig.
"Hang on mate whilst it get it out of hibernation mode!"
The CVR stops recording.
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There should be at least one paper version of all manuals, plates etc in the cockpit, not so much anticipating that every iPad crashing all the same time (unlikely) but what if there is a common software glitch when cruising at FL350 (they should all be using exact the same version, correct ?).
No, it's time we ditch these old ideas of not relying on a single piece of software or equipment. Sure, redundancy was a Good Thing way back in the primitive 1990s, but today, in 2011, we've got modern technology which never fails. Every computer user knows that.
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iPad a flight safety hazard ?
A few weeks back I was radar vectored on to a VOR final approach track only to find no ident or indication on the VOR, I looked over to find the FO had the same problem, we checked the tuning of the VOR's............ Checked the approach plates.......... Just how could we have had a dual system failure ? Was it the new high tech iPads as fault? No ! We don't have them !
Fortunately we could make a visual landing, on the ground further investigation found that it was a dual mode failure............ Both Jepp books had been incorectly updated!!!!!!!!
No system is foolproof but the Jepps on an iPad are likely to be better than relying on some poor guy who has the worst job in the world......updating manuals!!!!!!!
Fortunately we could make a visual landing, on the ground further investigation found that it was a dual mode failure............ Both Jepp books had been incorectly updated!!!!!!!!
No system is foolproof but the Jepps on an iPad are likely to be better than relying on some poor guy who has the worst job in the world......updating manuals!!!!!!!
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I would agree with TC and paper enroute charts, but not with FD.
No system is foolproof but the Jepps on an iPad are likely to be better than relying on some poor guy who has the worst job in the world......updating manuals!!!!!!!
No system is foolproof but the Jepps on an iPad are likely to be better than relying on some poor guy who has the worst job in the world......updating manuals!!!!!!!
