FLY DC JETS! for fans of the Douglas airliners!

[sevenstrokeroll]

great picture ...good way to think about it...leather jacket, vs tie and coat!

I remember the 280 knot speed on the slats!!! Our airline voluntarily observed 250 knots, but we knew we could pop them out at 280 if we had to!

I flew the DC9-32 also. just so much fun.

AS to "BOEING , BOEING" both play and film, it was more an homage to the beautiful ''stews'' of the day than the plane. And the VC10 was mentioned too.

I do remember a song called, ''the jet set''...life was heaven in a 707 and just great in a DC8.

Douglas rules!

[Biggles78]

I was told by a Sim Instructor from TAA who I was doing my IR subjects with that you could dump the gear at 300kts? Have never looked it up so, was that true?

[sevenstrokeroll]

300 knots or .7 mach is the landing gear extension and extended speed on the DC9-30...just checked my book

[bubbers44]

Unfortunately I never got the real DC9 just the sim for the DC9 Super 80, later the MD80. The Super80 had a lot of glitches because we got the first bunch with bad microswithes that caused a lot of problems. I guess that is why I favored Boeing, because that wasn't happening. It was new so had lots of problems. We called it a DC9 with an apple computer because it was always screwing up. Wish I had flown the original. I always trusted Boeing, turned down all A300 bids and all 4 Boeing types I flew never let me down. My favorite was the 757. So much performance and no matter what failed you were good to go. It is an airplane that won't hurt you unless you do something really stupid.

[wes_wall]

The DC8, my first jet. Began in the 31, grew up with the 55, and spent a short time in the 61 and 63 before moving to the 707 when my company decided to implement commonality to the fleet. Great airplane, but then again, I thought that about all the airplanes I drove during my career.

[gooneydog]

I still fly the -15 and -32 regularly Did most way across the USA & back in one yest 9.4 hours Love it

[poina]

DC-8-73, Strongest machine I've ever been in. There was a feeling of trust throughout the flight envelope that was never exhibited by Boeing or Airbus in my opinion!

[galaxy flyer]

Slasher

That's Essendon, correct?
GF

[Slasher]

The DC8, my first jet.

Yep you never forget your first jet - DC9 in my case. Bit
like the first time you fall in love isn't it - you never love
another woman quite the same way again.

And yep gear extension/extended was 300kt.

It was common practice to pull the gear/slats/flaps 10 kts
under placard. But design engineers in those days always
built in a fudge factor so us petrolheads never really took
things very sedately.

[Slasher]

galaxy f -

Nope Tullamarine Airport. Essendon was the main airport till
1969 I think.

[WHBM]

Originally Posted by sevenstrokeroll

Now, how many Boeing songs were there?

Played a lot in the 1970s was Gordon Lightfoot, "In The Early Morning Rain".

"Out on runway number nine
Big seven-o-seven set to go"

Early Mornin’ Rain Lyrics - Gordon Lightfoot

Notable is that Lightfoot came from Canada, where both major carriers were DC8 operators.

Originally Posted by Slasher

In between is a F27-200 (20-ton dog whistle)

Hadn't heard this nickname before, but oh how true; gave me a good laugh

[john_tullamarine]

Slasher,

That would have to be young Ted M in the left seat, would it not ?

[aterpster]

WHBM:

OK, Douglas aficionados, why did Douglas move on from the DC6B, engines as reliable as you could get then, to the DC7, whose engines were a step backwards in reliability.

AAL and UAL Trying to get the impatient business folks from LAX or SFO to JFK quicker, efficiency and reliability be damned. TWA had brought the 1649G on-line.

[sevenstrokeroll]

just read a little piece that said the DC930 series is more fuel efficent than the airbus A319/18 on flights of 500 miles or less.

my airline was dumb to get rid of the 9's.

[wes_wall]

Fuel Efficent

I recall as a FO when flying the 50 series, fuel efficent operation translated into how far can I go today. Summer flying, FCO JFK was always questionable non stop. Often if the decision was made early enough, SNN would get a breif visit, and the pax treated to a nice duty free shopping event. Or if the winds seemed to be more favorable, (rarely were) and if JFK became unable after SNN overfly, BKR would get the pleasure of our drop in. No Goose, No Gander, was still not quite true west bound in the summer.

[AerialNinja]

I loved flying on the DC-8, loved those huge windows

[sb_sfo]

DC-8

As a taxi/runup mechanic, I enjoyed taxiing the -63 at ORD in the rain. No wipers, just the bleed air blast across the windshield when the rain removal actuated. Good times...and that was one long-ass airplane. Only about 6 fewer seats than the DC-10!

[Graybeard]

DAC scrapped the tooling for the DC-8 to make way for the DC-10. Flying Tigers offered them an order for 25 DC8-63F at any rate DAC wanted to build them, but DAC refused. Widebody was the rage.

Development and guarantees for Cat III autoland with the Bendix PB-30 autopilot on the DC-10 bankrupted the company, and allowed McDonnell to take over. The Sperry autoland on the 747 wasn't much better, but Boeing survived it. The Lear-Siegler/Collins autoland on the L-1011 was good for Cat IIIc, and maybe the best part of the airplane.

Imagine if DAC had stuck with the DC-8. How soon would more efficient engines been available?

GB

[olepilot]

DC9-21
That was a real race machine

[3holelover]

... Who's the cluck that said the DC10 is more MD than DC????

Give your head a shake mister! The Dear Old Diesel Dixie was the BEST of the Douglas Corp beasts! She stands as the sturdiest truck in the DC fleet, and the most useful. An icon of aviation achievement. The pinnacle of DC's expertise. A fabulous machine with a perfect combination of mechanical wizardry and technical design. ... Simply, one of the best aircraft ever built!