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Old 19th July 2010 | 17:42
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Would someone enlighten me where exactly the engine fire bottles are located ?
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Old 19th July 2010 | 17:48
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Would you enlighten us which aircraft you have in mind?
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Old 19th July 2010 | 17:49
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Let's see, given that handle... a 747-8 maybe?
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Old 19th July 2010 | 18:05
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Yes, maybe.
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Old 19th July 2010 | 19:20
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Who cares?

As a pilot, does it matter?

No!

All you need to know is the SOP for dealing with a particular problem ... in this case an engine fire. It is for the regulatory authority to worry about the effectiveness of the necessary equipment. If it is approved, then good, follow the drills.

Nuff said?

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Old 19th July 2010 | 19:54
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Easy. They are kept at Engineering Stores and are available at a moments' notice.
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Old 19th July 2010 | 21:34
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The engine fire bottles would be where the fire is kept? I think most engines have annular combustors now.
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Old 19th July 2010 | 21:41
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Been a long time since I workes 742's, but in any aircraft large enough to handle them they will be in the LE close to each engine, possibly the pylon (if memory serves me in the 74- family).
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Old 19th July 2010 | 23:01
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The 747 has had them in the pylons, in the nose cowls and in the wing leading edge inboard of the inboard engines, which is where they are on the -8.
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Old 20th July 2010 | 08:20
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757 has them in the fwd end of the aft cargo bay.
A320 they're in the pylons.
767 (RR) they're in the nose cowls.
737 they're in the wheel well.

and on and on
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Old 20th July 2010 | 09:42
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B777 has them in the fwd cargo bay. Shinobi
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Old 20th July 2010 | 10:12
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B767/B747-400Rr they are in the engine nose cowl
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Old 20th July 2010 | 14:55
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727, they're in the aft airstair area.
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Old 20th July 2010 | 20:42
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TopBunk that's a pretty crap attitude to a reasonable question (apart from not specifying the type, although the name seems to have given it away).

"All you need to know is the SOP for dealing with a particular problem ... in this case an engine fire. It is for the regulatory authority to worry about the effectiveness of the necessary equipment. If it is approved, then good, follow the drills."

Where did anyone ask about effectiveness and necessity?

Checking the "bottle" for each engine is part of our walk around, it has a little gauge on the front showing the pressure, so we have to know where it is.

If I flew a type where it wasn't part of a walk around I would still be interested in knowing where it was, how many there were, what agent was in them, the amount etc
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Old 21st July 2010 | 18:37
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Yonks ago my younger brother (RIP) used to help me with memorizing my 727 phase 1 drills. Invaryably "fire the bottle" came up during the engine-fire drill and once he asked what it was.

I asked him what did he think? He was a 6yo at the time.

He replyed that he thought he was a man you automaticaly sacked if a planes engine caught fire -

"Hey BOTTLE! Into my office! NOW!"

"Yes sir. Im here Sir."

"You caused that engine to burn! YOUR FIRED!"

Pissweak I know but he was a funny little bloke when he was explaning it. Earlyer with the F27s "HP cocks to lockout" he thought I had to lock our chooks out of the house.
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