Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Flight Deck Forums > Tech Log
Reload this Page >

RVSM in the NAT

Wikiposts
Search
Tech Log The very best in practical technical discussion on the web

RVSM in the NAT

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 20th Jul 2009, 20:20
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: USofA
Posts: 1,235
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
RVSM in the NAT

Maybe someone can point me in the right direction. I have seen aircraft pass overhead as well as below our aircraft with a seperation of 1,000' while going in the opposite direction. Since the NAT flow is typically eastbound at night and westbout during the daylight hours I'm trying to put some logic to what is happening during these events. I cannot find anything definitive in the MNPS manuals. Any information is appreciated
Spooky 2 is offline  
Old 20th Jul 2009, 21:23
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Where the Quaboag River flows, USA
Age: 71
Posts: 3,414
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
No surprises here, freighter "flow" eastbound is often daylight, so they going opposite the westbound passenger tracks. ATC can, I believe route them "opposing' as long as everyone is RVSM. A bit atypical, perhaps, because the tracks are based on the minimum time route, i.e. most advantageous winds, so usually they are separated by the wind factor. Light winds, etc. might be a factor.

GF
galaxy flyer is offline  
Old 20th Jul 2009, 21:59
  #3 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: USofA
Posts: 1,235
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks GFlyer. That's pretty much the way I figured it was working but I can't find a printed data to define the procedure.
Spooky 2 is offline  
Old 21st Jul 2009, 02:37
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
You may want to consider "SLOP"
Iceman49 is offline  
Old 21st Jul 2009, 15:19
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
On some NAT routes on the OTS, not all levels are utilized and will be omitted from Track Message. For instance, during daytime, on the westbound flow, you may have Track "Charlie" with available levels 310,320,330,340,360,370,390. So, FL 350 and 380 are available for use by flights on a random routing, which could be opposite the westbound flow. That is why you see opposite direction traffic.
617SquadronDB is offline  
Old 22nd Jul 2009, 16:57
  #6 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: USofA
Posts: 1,235
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks to all for their replys. Much appreciated.
Spooky 2 is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.