Difference between IRS and INS
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Spooky me too!
see if it happens again : l@ser
It blinking well did happen ...again !
I have no idea why it should apply to laser but my guess is that some automatic parsing in the software is causing the glitch. Suggest we just nod our heads in wonderment and ignore it ...
see if it happens again : l@ser
It blinking well did happen ...again !
I have no idea why it should apply to laser but my guess is that some automatic parsing in the software is causing the glitch. Suggest we just nod our heads in wonderment and ignore it ...
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From: England
Maybe as "laser" is an acronym we should be spelling it "LASER"; we still talk about ATIS, STAR and DETRESFA 
Lets try: L@SER
Only kidding: LASER
Nope, typed in capitals and changed by the software. I'll get my coat

Lets try: L@SER
Only kidding: LASER
Nope, typed in capitals and changed by the software. I'll get my coat
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From: The New Forest, UK
Simmer down guys these are just silly acronyms. To cool you down further remember that Apollo misions to the moon used a single INS with the attendance gimbal lock problems and all. Today FMSs backed by two or three independents INSs are the norm and if these 3 units fail, so what, you still have GPS, LORAN, VOR/DME in triplicate and ATC. Getting lost is not an acceptable excuse for not getting there any more.
What ever happened to the good old navigator? Let me see what were they known as ....
What ever happened to the good old navigator? Let me see what were they known as ....
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From: The New Forest, UK
Spinning wheel gyros with mechanical gimbals can exceed limits as the gimbals rotate and two or more gimbals can align or occupy teh same plane. In the case of Apollo space craft ( or any thing that causes the rotation to exceed limits) on gimbal lock the angle transducers lose unabiguous axis inputs - the INS computer can not calculate correct craft orientation or attitue wrt intertial axes ( fixed stars) which is what the gyros are for.
Without attitude correct rocket sequence firing to achieve a given course is impossble.
I think A-13 had to resort to sextant.
Gimbal Angles and Gimbal Lock
Without attitude correct rocket sequence firing to achieve a given course is impossble.
I think A-13 had to resort to sextant.
Gimbal Angles and Gimbal Lock
Last edited by b377; 3rd March 2009 at 14:45.






