'Toxic' cabin air found in new plane study - Telegraph
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German Unions & Contaminated air
It's good to see the German pilot / cabin crew unions being proactive about their workplace and safety....
German unions press release
.........Of all the countries in Europe, these are the ones who recognise that there are common sense solutions.
DB
German unions press release
.........Of all the countries in Europe, these are the ones who recognise that there are common sense solutions.
DB
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A Guide for Health Care Providers - Feeling ill?
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Following the press release posted by Dream Buster, it's good to see the German unions speaking their mind and not siding with industry interests.
sueddeutsche.de: “Invisible poison intoxicates pilots”
sueddeutsche.de: “Invisible poison intoxicates pilots”
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It will be possible for all flight deck and cabin crew members to show their records to proove how often they had been eposed to "aircraft air environment".
But being a frequent flyer (more than 350.000 miles a year) and till now not writing down all my flight details, it will be nearly impossible to claim anything, if the subject is treated more seriously.
The reality is that I am more hours in an aircraft compared with some crews.
But being a frequent flyer (more than 350.000 miles a year) and till now not writing down all my flight details, it will be nearly impossible to claim anything, if the subject is treated more seriously.
The reality is that I am more hours in an aircraft compared with some crews.
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Flight International
Good to see Flight International continuing to cover this issue. This time they are documenting the work of the Aerotoxic Association …
Work Experience – Revealing aviation's toxic secrets
Work Experience – Revealing aviation's toxic secrets
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Flight attendant wins in toxic-fume case
Flight attendant wins in toxic-fume case
Been a long time coming, but sense prevails at last!
"A quarter of pilots who flew on the BAe 146 jet suffered long-term effects and could no longer work, a University of NSW survey found."
Cheers
Been a long time coming, but sense prevails at last!
"A quarter of pilots who flew on the BAe 146 jet suffered long-term effects and could no longer work, a University of NSW survey found."
Cheers
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BAE lose final Appeal in High Court
Flight attendant wins in toxic-fume case
Game, set, match and championship to Joanne Turner.
"But airlines, aircraft manufacturers and the Civil Aviation Safety Authority say there is no evidence it is a danger." - very scary......
Never give up.
DB
Game, set, match and championship to Joanne Turner.
"But airlines, aircraft manufacturers and the Civil Aviation Safety Authority say there is no evidence it is a danger." - very scary......
Never give up.
DB
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PhD Thesis - Contaminated cabin air.
At last, a thesis on contaminated cabin air.
The phoenix girl - Learmount
Congratulations - Dr Michaelis.
DB
The phoenix girl - Learmount
Congratulations - Dr Michaelis.
DB
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Aerotoxic Syndrome, though being talked about in commercial aviation sector, is not even a recognised illness or entity as far as medical sciences is concerned. But for the isolated efforts by few individuals, unions and even regulators like CAA and CASA, this may remain a unknown malady, with physicians the world over treating the symptoms of the affected individuals as anything other than aerotoxic syndrome!
Kudos to the German unions for being forthright in this matter.
Kudos to the German unions for being forthright in this matter.
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Yes indeed - the German unions are quoted in this article from Der Spiegel magazine. Their media has been giving this issue a lot of attention over the past couple of years.
Der Spiegel: Gestank alter Socken (German)
Der Spiegel: Stench of old socks (English translation)
Der Spiegel: Gestank alter Socken (German)
Der Spiegel: Stench of old socks (English translation)
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Cranfield University report
The long overdue Cranfield University report is meant to be published in the late spring of 2011 (originally 2010) to provide the 'urgent' answer of 'which substances are in the fumes' asked by the House of Lords in 2007.
Any bets that it will be published over Easter / Royal wedding on 29th April 2011 - a good time to dump bad news?
DB
Any bets that it will be published over Easter / Royal wedding on 29th April 2011 - a good time to dump bad news?
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Shell Management
Your're playing with matches again in a tinder box of believers.
You could probably have some valid points. My summary of this is that engineers can not fix what they can't measure and that when all is said and done more will be said then done.
Your're playing with matches again in a tinder box of believers.
You could probably have some valid points. My summary of this is that engineers can not fix what they can't measure and that when all is said and done more will be said then done.
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Cuban9 needs to open his eyes to the reality OIL is running out and the world is running around trying to figure out what to do when the black gold runs out.
Back on topic...
Is it more of a case of won't look rather can can't look, or did look but didn't find? If you don't look you can't see anything...
Why is it all these samples must be taken secretly? If there is nothing to hide, there is nothing to fear, right?
ECAM Actions.
Back on topic...
Is it more of a case of won't look rather can can't look, or did look but didn't find? If you don't look you can't see anything...
Why is it all these samples must be taken secretly? If there is nothing to hide, there is nothing to fear, right?
ECAM Actions.
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Shell, It took time to agree that farmers were being killed by organophosphates in sheep dip, and eventually that was banned. I was a sceptic until I lost my kidneys three years ago after 17 years on the 146 due to my immune system running wild almost certainly the same problem as sheep dip.