How could the pilot have prevented this bumpy landing?
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Originally Posted by fabbe92
I have never seen this jet before. Could someone explain to me why it looks exactly like the Concorde and why stealing is the word that pops out in my head?
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Both based on 'open-source' NASA studies of best shape in the late '50s.
So solutions would have been similar.
Exactly like Concorde?
Not that similar after all.
Concorde wing is a complex ogive shape with all kinds of subtle twists.
TU-144 is just a basic double-delta.
fabbe92, if you've never seen a Tu-144 before, and know nothing about its story, might I suggest there is such a thing as the internet and Google and Wikipedia, where you can inform yourself, before polluting a halfway professional forum?
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I've just spent ages on Google looking for a US built supersonic transport. Can't find one. 
For many years, the foremost Soviet aeronautical inventor was: Regus Patoff (Registered, US Patent Office)
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I understand your post. Boeing gave up and it was a pity, though Concorde was beautiful and mission ready.
Look at C-5 and An 124, The Shuttle and Mir, Mig anything and North American, GD, Lockheed. etc.
The British have built, historically, some of the most beautiful machines to fly. The Spit just about stops my Heart.
But when the Russkies kidnapped the First B-29, the ball started rolling.
The first An-124 had a CRT for Wx that was 24" in diameter, and "valves"
(tubes) for avionics. They saved in Shape and power by copying. I won't fault the Concorde, don't make me get too defensive about Heinemann, Douglas, Jack Northrop, etc. and I will stipulate to deHavilland, Whittle, etc. (St.Exupery, you might be French?)
Cheers, AF
Look at C-5 and An 124, The Shuttle and Mir, Mig anything and North American, GD, Lockheed. etc.
The British have built, historically, some of the most beautiful machines to fly. The Spit just about stops my Heart.
But when the Russkies kidnapped the First B-29, the ball started rolling.
The first An-124 had a CRT for Wx that was 24" in diameter, and "valves"
(tubes) for avionics. They saved in Shape and power by copying. I won't fault the Concorde, don't make me get too defensive about Heinemann, Douglas, Jack Northrop, etc. and I will stipulate to deHavilland, Whittle, etc. (St.Exupery, you might be French?)
Cheers, AF
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Thnx for the feed back on the landing dynamics of delta's, thats what I was looking for. Looking at the video I too noticed the last second elevator movements. No doubt the Tu144 landing gear is fullly dimensioned to take this kind of loads.
IMO the Tu144 looks like the Concorde when look at it from say 3 - 4 miles...
The size / shapes of the wings / canards, materials used, engine positions, cooling systems and flight control systems etc aren't even close. And oh yes, the Tu144 flew before the Concorde..
I think the copy cat non-sense is a feel good cold war heritage and an insult to the great skills and creativity displayed by the russian aerospace engineers of Tupolev, Ilyushin, Sukhoi, Beriev, Kamov, Mil, Myasishchev, Antonov, Tsagi, Yakovlev and many others.
Back to topic, I think the Russians knew a thing or two about ground effect. How about this for a copy cat..
http://membres.lycos.fr/dracken/Ekra...rono_russe.jpg
IMO the Tu144 looks like the Concorde when look at it from say 3 - 4 miles...
The size / shapes of the wings / canards, materials used, engine positions, cooling systems and flight control systems etc aren't even close. And oh yes, the Tu144 flew before the Concorde..I think the copy cat non-sense is a feel good cold war heritage and an insult to the great skills and creativity displayed by the russian aerospace engineers of Tupolev, Ilyushin, Sukhoi, Beriev, Kamov, Mil, Myasishchev, Antonov, Tsagi, Yakovlev and many others.
Back to topic, I think the Russians knew a thing or two about ground effect. How about this for a copy cat..
http://membres.lycos.fr/dracken/Ekra...rono_russe.jpg
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I think the copy cat non-sense is a feel good cold war heritage and an insult to the great skills and creativity displayed by the russian aerospace engineers of Tupolev, Ilyushin, Sukhoi, Beriev, Kamov, Mil, Myasishchev, Antonov, Tsagi, Yakovlev and many others.
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Airfoilmod: Nearly all of the Russian designs were and ARE superiour to their Western counterparts, especially in military aviation. Copycats?! No sir, brilliant aeronautical designers.
Yes, the Russians spied on the Western designs, but SO DID THE USA!!
Typical US remark about "russian copycats" by the way... and quite sad really
Ever heard of the First joint simulated airfight exercise near Key West in the early 90's between the USAF F15's (with their "TOP GUN" pilots and the former Eastern European MIG29's? All the Americans were shot down within 5 minutes...with no losses for the MIG's
Yes, the Russians spied on the Western designs, but SO DID THE USA!!
Typical US remark about "russian copycats" by the way... and quite sad really
Ever heard of the First joint simulated airfight exercise near Key West in the early 90's between the USAF F15's (with their "TOP GUN" pilots and the former Eastern European MIG29's? All the Americans were shot down within 5 minutes...with no losses for the MIG's
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How could the pilot have prevented this bumpy landing?
It looks like a test flight to me..Perhaps they were testing something!
Move along folks, nothing to see here...
