Refueling while deboarding.... Is it allowed??
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Originally Posted by parabellum
The bit I find most objectionable is this
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It might even be aircraft specific.
Not all aircraft have single point refueling. I'd guess that almost all the modern turboprops do but without mentioning the a/c, or company, who knows what the SOP is.
I doubt a large jet operator prohibits refueling while boarding or deplaning. Too much time would be lost trying to turn the a/c.
Not all aircraft have single point refueling. I'd guess that almost all the modern turboprops do but without mentioning the a/c, or company, who knows what the SOP is.
I doubt a large jet operator prohibits refueling while boarding or deplaning. Too much time would be lost trying to turn the a/c.
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Just as a weird side note (and my first post. hi mum! ). I can remember fixing a Virgin 738 and testing the PRAM. One of the automatic messages says "... while we're refueling please leave your seat belt off...".
One of the only limitations I can think of is no fueling during an electrical storm. Otherwise refuel away (allowing for your companies refuel procedures of course)
One of the only limitations I can think of is no fueling during an electrical storm. Otherwise refuel away (allowing for your companies refuel procedures of course)
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I know I am wasting my breath, and Danny has gone AWOL, but it is supposed to be a Professional Pilots Network. This trash question should be in the spotters forum.
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Just aas an aside - and apologies in advance if I upset you rainboe - I was once boarding a flight in Greece, via steps (front and back) while the aircraft was being refuelled. Cabin crew in the doorway, cant remember seeing any refuelers acting in a "supervisory" way - but I DID notice another passenger further back in the queue SMOKING on the way to the aircraft steps (I guess the "smoking is permitted once outside the terminal" message kind of got mixed up!) - Anyhow, I mentioned it to the FA once at the top of the steps, and she dealt with it very professionally, a load bellow to the effect of "PUT THAT CIGARETTE OUT NOW!" followed by a few quiet words of explination on boarding seemed to do the trick.
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The refuel incident referred to by Rainbow occured in September 2001 and was a 777 at Denver. As stated it was a fuel coupling failure, where the fuel was ignited by the hot exhaust.
As to refueling with passengers on board that is a matter for the airfield licencee.
In the UK taking into account the requirements of CAP 748, and the HSE Explosive atmosphere regulations (DSEAR). Plus of course your own companies risk assessments.
At Heathrow the BAA OSI 35/01 prohibits passengers within 6 meters of any fueling zone ( the vents, refuel pit or refuel vehicle).
Its just over 3 years since fuel vapour ignited at Buncefield and that cost Heathrow operators nearly £250000
Pax are regulaly boarding while fueling is taking place following laid down procedures. As far as I am aware with out any serious incidents.
As to refueling with passengers on board that is a matter for the airfield licencee.
In the UK taking into account the requirements of CAP 748, and the HSE Explosive atmosphere regulations (DSEAR). Plus of course your own companies risk assessments.
At Heathrow the BAA OSI 35/01 prohibits passengers within 6 meters of any fueling zone ( the vents, refuel pit or refuel vehicle).
Its just over 3 years since fuel vapour ignited at Buncefield and that cost Heathrow operators nearly £250000
Pax are regulaly boarding while fueling is taking place following laid down procedures. As far as I am aware with out any serious incidents.