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Old 17th November 2008 | 10:33
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Weather & notams

Quick question.

Is there a legal requirement to carry a paper version of weather and notams for each flight or can an electronic version be used? Or, is it enough simply to have reviewed them?
I'm talking about the legal requirement, not necessarily what is normally done, if so where is it written?
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Old 17th November 2008 | 18:59
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My OM (JAR, now EU-OPS) says that we have to retain the paper format docs utilized in planning for the self produced docs only (e.g. company notams).

Any wx & notams paper infos dowloaded by a contracted provider can be throwed away because at any later stage the contractor system can reproduce the utilized datas.

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Old 18th November 2008 | 08:14
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paper format - legal req.
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Old 18th November 2008 | 08:17
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Yep paper version - getting ramp checked without it is gonna be bad news.
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Old 18th November 2008 | 19:23
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OPS 1.135
Additional information and forms to be carried
(a) An operator shall ensure that, in addition to the documents and manuals prescribed in OPS 1.125 and OPS 1.130, the
following information and forms, relevant to the type and area of operation, are carried on each flight:
(1) Operational Flight Plan containing at least the information required in OPS 1.1060;
(2) Aeroplane Technical Log containing at least the information required in Part M, paragraph M. A. 306 Operator’s
technical log system;
(3) Details of the filed ATS flight plan;
(4) Appropriate NOTAM/AIS briefing documentation;
(5) Appropriate meteorological information;
(6) Mass and balance documentation as specified in Subpart J;
(7) Notification of special categories of passenger such as security personnel, if not considered as crew, handicapped
persons, inadmissible passengers, deportees and persons in custody;
(8) Notification of special loads including dangerous goods including written information to the commander as prescribed
in OPS 1.1215 (c);
(9) Current maps and charts and associated documents as prescribed in OPS 1.290 (b)(7);
(10) Any other documentation which may be required by the States concerned with this flight, such as cargo manifest,
passenger manifest etc; and
(11) Forms to comply with the reporting requirements of the Authority and the operator.
(b) The Authority may permit the information detailed in subparagraph (a) above, or parts thereof, to be presented in a
form other than on printed paper. An acceptable standard of accessibility, usability and reliability must be assured.
In the end it all comes down to what the "Authority" wants. Very vague and open to interpretation...
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Old 18th November 2008 | 20:37
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A flight is legal only when the weight of the paperwork is equal to the weight of the plane -

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Old 18th November 2008 | 20:48
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maybe a little more nowadays
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Old 19th November 2008 | 07:09
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Thought it depends on your operator. If he is approved by the authority he might be allowed to use electronic datas.
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Old 19th November 2008 | 09:00
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In our airline (big UK charter), if both pilots have downloaded the brief to their laptops, then the only paperwork required is the flight plan (one copy). In practice a paper copy of Wx & Notams is normally printed for convenience.
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